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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Bwood_Ranger

    Bwood_Ranger 2023 Funniest Poster

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    Exactly. Royal West Windsor-upon-Thames will have eyewatering prices once I'm done.
     
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  2. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Not a bad start for Corbyn, setting himself and Labour as the anti-establishment option. Drain the swamp.
     
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  3. Bwood_Ranger

    Bwood_Ranger 2023 Funniest Poster

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    Brexit was the anti-establishment vote. Unfortunately, those looking to be anti-establishment weren't aware that was nonsense.
     
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  4. GoldhawkRoad

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    Corbyn gives Lib Dems the remoan vote by ruling out a second referendum
     
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  5. TheBigDipper

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    It won't stop Brexit. I think we should take Brexit as a given and vote for the other policies we want from the party that promises to deliver them. If we can believe what they say.

    Interesting times.
     
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  6. sheffordqpr

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  7. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    I think this is a big gamble by May. The polls are always wrong these days and I predict a huge anti-brexit movement on social media, voting tactically to try to either soften brexit or reverse it in some way. The big winners will be the Lib Dems with their ultra religious, anti gay leader. They will pick up an awful lot of the anti-brexit voters.
    People are going to have a huge problem deciding who to vote for. Labour voters who voted leave will find it hard to bite the bullet and vote Tory, but it is the sensible thing to do if one wants brexit safeguarded.
    Personally, if brexit hadn't happened I would have a problem, as I'm not sure I would want to vote Tory, as there's a fair bit I disagree with that this government is doing. I couldn't ever vote for Corbyn or Farron, so I'd be scratching around looking for an independent or something.
    As it is, a Tory vote is a brexit vote so that's what I'll do.

    This is a re-run of the referendum - could be close!!
     
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    Cant see this being close Some papers are saying it could be a 140 majority.
     
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  9. rangercol

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    I'm not convinced.
     
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  10. rangercol

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    Is it possible to reverse Brexit now that article 50 has been triggered? I'm genuinely not sure, although I suspect it can't be,
     
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    It won't Col. All Tories will support the party. Brexit voters will support the Tories. Labour are a joke with 'Comic Corbyn" and the Lib Dems are as wet as water.
    Massive Tory win.
     
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  12. Stroller

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    I too think it will be closer than the polls are saying. The Lib Dems could gain 30 seats as the anti-Hard Brexit party and Corbyn could well appeal to younger voters as the anti-establishment choice. There will be a lot of tactical voting too. May will almost certainly get a majority, but I don't think it will be anything like the landslide that recent polls suggest.
     
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    Nope, me neither. I think she'll probably increase her majority, but, with it being a referendum re-run, I think it will be much closer than is being suggested.
     
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    I COULD get a **** off Yanet Garcia tonight.......but I probably won't.
     
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  15. Stroller

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    The thing is, it's a referendum re-run for the Lib Dems (or at least a vote on what kind of Brexit we want) and they will make gains on that basis. Corbyn will campaign on anti-establishment, anti-austerity and this will have more appeal than some might expect. Plus of course the CPS might take a hand. I predict a 30-40 majority for the Tories.
     
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  16. rangercol

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    Which I suppose will justify the election, as May will have her mandate.
     
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    I think the Lib Dems will get loads more votes but not many more seats.
    Totally right. And I suspect her mandate will allow her to go for a softer Brexit too.
     
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  18. Stroller

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    Well if that really were to be the result, she would at least have been elected to her position. It would hardly be a triumph, though. She ought to get at least an 80-seat majority to justify going back on her word.
     
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    I read some journalist opinion that a cancellation of the triggering of article 50 could be made until some formal agreement is made.
     
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  20. sb_73

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    It's new ground for everyone Col. I suspect that if the British government were to say we've changed our minds the EU would make a show of being pissed off because of all the hassle that has happened but actually be delighted. But there would be no way we could even get the concessions that Cameron negotiated, and our influence would be massively reduced. I would have liked us to stay in but not passively, work with other nations to improve the whole thing. That chance has gone.
     
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