Off Topic The Politics Thread

That really is pathetic when someone has a different view or idea to you then you can call them a fool.

 

Nail on head there.

 

A bit OTT. We might end up doing well out of Brexit but how anyone can conclude May knows what she's doing from the last six months is beyond me, sorry.

 

Theresa May today:

"I want to be clear: what I am proposing cannot mean membership of the single market."
"It would, to all intents and purposes, mean not leaving the EU at all. That is why both sides in the referendum campaign made it clear that a vote to leave the EU would be a vote to leave the single market"

Really Theresa?

 

All the BBC reporters should be dressed in black, such is the wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Hilarious!

 

Just seen the awful Tim Farron on the news ranting and whinging as usual.
I'm sure his eyes were actually spinning round in opposite directions.
Buffoon!

 

Really?
Looks like I'm getting what I voted for.

 

I think a lot of things must be beyond you.

 

If you're happy with meaningless soundbites and a government that can't agree on anything then good for you.

Brexit means Brexit. Brilliant.

 

I don't see what it has to do with my age or intelligence. It's a foolish opinion (in my opinion). Why you're so irked by that I don't know.

 

I have now watched the speech and it was a good one. It's a shame that 'remoaners' cannot accept a good speech.
Funnily I have read many people moaning that May is doing nothing re Brexit but today she put that to rest yet you get the same old lot still moaning? It was clear to me what she has said and what she wants.

 

Sounds more wishful thinking than realistic to me. I'll believe it when I see it.

 

Sorry Watford you are just winding us up.

 

Well I'm a very definite Remain but I've already posted on here that it was a good speech as speeches go. Made things a lot more clear. I don't like what she is planning. Farron is right that the best for the UK is to stay in the single market, and that should be the target of the negotiations, not just best possible access to it as she said today. She has given away too much already by this statement.

 

I'm really not. I voted Leave but I didn't vote for an unelected PM to pander to Little Englanders at the risk of our economy.

 

The Queen should really have called an election after the referendum was lost (i.e. the government lost), I'm sure an elected president would have done so. Given Comrade Brexit himself, Corbyn, was leader of the opposition - I've no doubt she'd have had an even bigger majority, but we'd have been able to vote for the manifesto detailing the hard brexit. As it is May is using the legitimacy of the 51.9% to deliver the changes, when even that block have varying degrees of what Leave meant.

UKIP were the only party to say "all out" at the last general election (they got one MP) - the Conservative party certainly didn't state it wanted to leave the single market and customs union.

Hopefully the Tories and Labour will both split anyway

 

There's no mandate for leaving the Single Market and May herself has no mandate whatsoever. She should be forced to call a general election.

 

Four figures walk down Oxford Street in winter, the snow hard in their face. A rich lawyer, a poor lawyer, Father Christmas and Soft Brexit.

They stumble upon a £50 note lying in the ice on the sidewalk. The question is, who picked it up?

Answer - the rich lawyer because all the others are figments of the imagination.

It was never possible to leave the EU and stay in the single market without effectively still being in the EU. Clean break. Most EU states know its to their commercial advantage to have good ties to the UK and to London as the world's most important financial centre. The idea that wealthy, indulged bankers will give up their culturally rich and diverse life in London to move to Dublin or Frankfurt cannot be taken seriously (despite Dublin being a lovely city) - though banks may pay to put a brass nameplate on a Dublin solicitor's wall to get EU membership advantages. Once countries like France get over their hissy fits that we want to be a global trading country again without EU protectionism, sense will prevail, and all nose cutting and face spiting will be a thing of the past.

 

The Leave campaign weren't saying that in the run-up to the referendum though were they? Many prominent Leave campaigners were saying that we would be mad to leave the Single Market. Conversely, Remain were saying that if you vote leave the EU, you are voting to leave the Single Market, but that was just scaremongering of course.