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Huddersfield Town v Leeds Utd / Breakfast Debate

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Feb 3, 2017.

  1. milkyboy

    milkyboy Well-Known Member

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    Part of the reason the technical area exists is to stop flash points that Wagner's actions caused. So Wagner lit the touch paper, But monk reacted in a petulant manner. Both at fault in my opinion.

    If monk had done what Wagner did we'd likely be lauding him for his passion.

    I think what monk was trying to say, re his values was: you don't act disrespectfully, and if someone does to you/your team, you front up to them.

    I think both managers were wrong, but actually I quite admire the passion and traits they displayed.
     
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  2. xbpod

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    Watched match with a none Leeds fan and he said more or less the same as Milky, I was raging at the time but in the cold light of day it was 50/50 blame wise.
     
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  3. xbpod

    xbpod Well-Known Member

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    That Act only applies to spectators so does not apply to Wagner <doh>
     
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  4. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    Well he obviously isn't allowed to go on to the pitch, that's why they have a technical area.
     
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  5. xbpod

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    Agreed but nothing to do with the Act quoted.
     
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  6. PhilK

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    Wagner was daft to do what he did. BUT it wouldn't have blown up and got all the wrong headlines but for Monk's childish petulant stupidity
     
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  7. Whitejock

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    Not so. Show me where it says that ...

    4. It is an offence for a person at a designated football match to go onto playing area. the playing area, or any area adjacent to the playing area to which spectators are not generally admitted, without lawful authority or lawful excuse (which shall be for him to prove).

    "A person" refers to anyone not permitted on the field of play by the referee.

    "without lawful authority or lawful excuse" means without the referee's permission.

    The only reference to spectator is in defining the areas within the stadium that are out of bounds, effectively.

    If you're going to be pernickety, there are public order offences that apply to his actions too. By his illegal incursion, he could have caused a pitch invasion, which no doubt would have developed into a riot. He was also guilty of common assault in the way he grabbed Monk. Note that Monk's hands were in his pockets throughout. Not me, I'd have been swinging wildly! :D
     
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  8. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    What a load of bollox <laugh>
     
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  9. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    To Summarize

    Local derby for 2 Yorkshire minnows with bragging rights at stake.
    Hudders score a deserved winner in dying minutes - passionate manager in heat of moment and filled with Euphoria runs on to celebrate with HIS players.
    Other manager equally as passionate gets hump because of said goal and physically assaults other manager.
    Yorkshire pansies throw a few handbags at each other then forgotten about.
    Then 2nd manager obviously still hurting and starts crying like a baby and slagging off victorious manager to press.
    Some Leeds fans are equally as bitter and can't let it go - some even think celebrating with your players is a criminal offence.

    Football used to be a mans game <ok>
     
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  10. xbpod

    xbpod Well-Known Member

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    The whole Act is for spectators attending football grounds not officials <doh>
     
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  11. PGFWhite

    PGFWhite Well-Known Member

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    What the f*** was that Huddersfield prick doing on the pitch?
    Daft? It was a disgrace. He is supposed to lead by example. He'll have the book thrown at him.
     
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  12. OLOF

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    You're right, he should have knocked the **** out just for being a cocky German bastard<ok>
     
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  13. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    Yep - Should have kicked his arse back to the Islamic State of Hesse!!
     
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  14. lifecheshirewhite

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    <laugh> walking in front of someone with your hands in your pockets is an assault in Bermondsey ? are you Peter Tatchell :emoticon-0172-mooni
     
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  15. Whitejock

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    That's not what section 4 says!
     
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  16. xbpod

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    It's the whole Act, section 4 is only part of it, but the whole Act governs spectators. It was all part of a raft of legislation brought in to hammer football fans with harsher penalties than a normal member of the public would get for the same offence.
     
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  17. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    Yep - replaced the Football Spectators act 1998.
    I thought all football fans knew this - especially the one's that like to phone the OB <whistle>
     
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  18. lifecheshirewhite

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    Does it mention hands in your pocket assaults ? no wonder the Hammers don't bother with you any more,if you shout Police I've been assaulted every time someone walks in front of you.
     
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  19. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    So a 1991 act replaced a 1998 act? <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  20. esteponawhite

    esteponawhite Well-Known Member

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    Fook me what a load of bollox,a bit of hand bags end of.
    Oh for the eighties........
     
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