FA Cup

take it you are talking about the pie ?

 

All that empty bottle money they threw away. ...and they tell us times are tough at millwall.

 

So football teams losing their "bottle" is a metaphorical phrase.
But the Millwall supporter collective IQ is so low they can only interpret the phrase literally.

Thanks for clearing that up for us (at least we now know the act is not due to vague
intelligence + moron violence eh) .

 

Are you hoping likewise for a disappearance the moment his team gets spanked or
becomes an embarrassment ??

 

we can all live in hope where do you think im going and when ? we will beat you and as for embarrassment well lets see who walks away with it eh

 

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You can get 10/1 on Sergio Aguero eating a pasty during City's game v Monaco. There's a Gregg's near the Etihad.

1000/1 for the return leg though.

 

If he does manage it, hopefully doesn't say anything as dense as "It wasn't a pasty, it was an empanada" in his defence...

 

There is a failure of logic by the FA here: once there is a betting market on him eating a pie and he knows about it, he is in an impossible position. If he doesn't eat a pie then one side of the bet wins, if he does then the other side wins. He therefore affects the outcome whatever he chooses to do and shouldn't be penalised for it.

 

But eating the pie meant he got involved in the wager. No one gets penalised for inaction.

 

Sorry SD - same failure of logic. If a bookmaker quoted me 10-1 on that you would post on this Board today and you saw that: would that mean you were not allowed to post? If so the bookie would always win....

 

The issue is how he strode out of the dugout and made such a show of taking a bite out of his "It wasn't a pie, it was a pasty"

It's one thing if he was caught doing it while sat in the dugout, quite another to blatantly do it for the cameras

 

I'm not defending his actions and can see why the Club had to take action, but it's nothing to do with improper interference with a betting market any more than if Harry Kane scores a goal during a period when he is 8-1 to do that. If a bookie is stupid enough to make a market which people can directly influence they deserve to lose more than the punters do.

 

Only if you accept he was likely to eat a pie anyway.

 

I don't have to accept that. Your logic says that as soon as the bookie opens the bet he is forbidden to eat the pie. So the bookie can't lose. Personally I'm rather pleased that a bookie who set up such a ridiculous and frankly offensive market had to pay out!

 

That comparison doesn't work at all: Harry Kane is paid to score goals, not just with his weekly wage but also gets a bonus for every goal he scores, and on top of that his teammates actually have to get the ball to him for him to score during that period. On the other hand Wayne Shaw was paid by Sutton to play in goal, not eat pies - the only way he'll get paid for that is if Greggs use him for an ad campaign.

 

Just to be clear, I don't think he's done anything wrong. It could have no effect on the outcome of the game - given the 3rd sub had been made - and so I say leave him to it. However he did strictly speaking break the rules and was foolish to do so. I wonder what would have happened had only 2 subs been made. Hopefully he wouldn't have gone near it.

 

If the bookies have lost serious money on pie-gate, then no harm done
(bar the idiots who bet on it in the first place) .

 

Completely agree with PS on this. It's incredible that the player is being cast as the only guilty party in all of this whilst the bookies are receiving lots of pats on the back and slaps on the knee for some 'top FA cup banter'. Both were equally at fault: the bookies for putting the player in an impossible position and (more importantly) for trying to reduce one of football's most ancient tournaments to a slapstick comedy routine. And the player for being a bit dim and dobbing himself in barely 10 minutes after the game ended!

 

Wayne should be knighted, not sacked from his job. He's a hero to us working class .

To be honest if he's smart, he could probably capitalise on his brief window of fame. There's bound to be some idiots who'll want him to appear on a TV show or at functions just for purely being a fat **** who ate a pie on TV. Was probably on pennies at Sutton, could easily make a few grand within the next week or so. His social media following went from a couple hundred to currently 17,000... Amazing. If only TV cameras focused on me scoffing my face, I'd be a millionaire.