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  1. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    I think the borrowing was a while back when they were in negotiations to sell the club. Some owners like to have as much money as possible in their own bank account. We don't know how much the Allam's borrow to finance City.
     
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  2. Arnold_Lane_HCFC_

    Arnold_Lane_HCFC_ Well-Known Member

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    You're so lazy you've got a smoke alarm with a snooze button.

    (Thanks Tim)
     
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    Arnold_Lane_HCFC_ Well-Known Member

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    Can't this be identified? If it's company borrowing then shouldn't that company produce end of year accounts? Surely they can't be borrowing in their own names can they? Can they have that many personal assets that a bank would lend against
     
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  4. petersaxton

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    that's why I referred to the Allam's borrowing - I meant in their own name. I would have said Hull City borrowing - which they are doing - from the Allam's. The whole point when you have these wealth reports is that it always focuses on an individual's assets. Nobody knows what the individual borrows - see Robert Maxwell. I would have expected that when the Allam's bought Hull City and paid off the debts they will have borrowed the money. I doubt they had £100m sat in a bank account. Somebody like Allam will have the vast majority of his wealth in the form of the worth of his generator company.
     
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  5. Chilton's Hundreds

    Chilton's Hundreds Well-Known Member

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    I don't think the Allam's are as wealthy as people think.

    All this Rich List bollocks is often based on inflated value of business assets.
     
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  6. originallambrettaman

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    They've basically just swapped personal debt to company debt, with the guaranteed Premier League money as security.
     
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  7. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Clever? Sneaky? Underhand? Right thing to do?
     
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  8. originallambrettaman

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    Dunno, we don't know enough about the details.

    As fans it would be better if the debt remained with the Allams, as an external lender is more likely to call in the loan if they get twitchy about how things are going, but it's not necessarily a big deal (it really depends on how much debt they're transferring).
     
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  9. ImperialTiger

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    That was my thought. FFP averted. No longer an issue. Take money back out.
     
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  10. Obadiah

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    Nobody tells them how to run their business nor stops them getting all their money back. Makes you wonder what really happened on the last day of the transfer window to the missing paperwork.
     
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  11. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    I always felt this was done accidently on purpose.
     
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  12. Chilton's Hundreds

    Chilton's Hundreds Well-Known Member

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    Merge with Conspiracy thread pls

    :bandit:
     
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  13. PLT

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    Conspiracies should never be ruled out with the Allams. They're always up to something, and they stoop to much lower levels than most think.
     
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  14. Chilton's Hundreds

    Chilton's Hundreds Well-Known Member

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    I was only joking.

    Alas, I fear you are not.
     
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  15. petersaxton

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    Thats my point. What personal assets have they got that a bank would lend against? If they haven't got many apart from house (houses) how can they borrow against company assets (I know it's their company), but wouldn't there be some form of liability showing in their company accounts relating to lending to themselves and indirectly to City?
     
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  17. petersaxton

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    you haven't considered that they can offer their shares in their generator business as security for any borrowings?
     
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  18. The Omega Man

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    Exactly.
     
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  19. ImperialTiger

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    The liability is owed to Allamhouse, not directly to the Allams. The lending is to City, not to themselves. The lending is against the training ground and future Premier league money
     
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  20. PattyNchips2

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    I couldnt be more ****ing bored!
     
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