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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by monty987, Apr 22, 2017.

  1. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    That's the spirit champ.
     
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  2. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    There is a lot on here who believe we belong in the Prem I believe the Championship is about our proper level be nice if it wasn't but there you go.
     
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  3. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Finishing 10th would mean we have won more games than the last 3 seasons added together <ok>
     
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  4. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Controversial statement there.
     
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  5. Big Bad Wesley Brown

    Big Bad Wesley Brown Well-Known Member

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    Have to say I disagree with you there. In terms of the size of the club, history, fanbase, infrastructure etc, we "should" be at least hovering between 10th and 15th in the Premier League in my opinion. Teams like West Brom, Burnley, Watford, Stoke and Southampton have all managed it and none of them are what you would call "bigger" clubs than Sunderland. Difference is none of those clubs have been mismanaged from top to bottom for four seasons...
     
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  6. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

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    Just the four? <whistle>
     
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  7. Big Bad Wesley Brown

    Big Bad Wesley Brown Well-Known Member

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    I was referring to how long it's been since Quinny was here; obviously he made plenty of bad calls himself but at least he was a football person and he understood the club. Short, Byrne, and Bain don't seem to have a clue.
     
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  8. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    FTM

    These ****s are gonna take the piss.










    ****s. Ftm
     
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  9. Brian Storm

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    I don't buy all that personally, it's a results based industry so we're simply at the level we are at, which is the worst team in the top flight as it stands. Do we deserve to be there? Damn right we do. If we get out of it, then we've earned our place. If we go down it's where we should be.
     
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  10. Big Bad Wesley Brown

    Big Bad Wesley Brown Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I wasn't quite clear in my point; I'm not saying we have some divine right to be in the Premier League because we have a big ground and large away crowds, or that we deserve to be there over any of those other clubs. I'm saying that those clubs have put us to shame by showing ambition, building their squads in the right way, and backing their managers, and that we have failed to live up to the standards set by the rest of the league.

    Everything should be there in theory for us to be a mid-table PL team but we haven't managed it. If the Championship is the right level overall for our club, then by that logic the last ten years should be looked at as a golden era of over-achievement, and I don't think anyone would argue for that point...
     
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    Deletion Requested1 Well-Known Member

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    Just on the subject of the state of Safc I was watching El Classico and Rakatich scored for Barca and I remembered we were linked with him. So I googled it and apparently it was suggested by Ian Atkins (ex player and then scout) to sign him in 2011 but SAFC declined the fee was £ 380,000. Just about sums the incompetent f** kers up.
     
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  12. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Still think it all counts for nothing. We've the facilities, attendances and ground to be champions league regulars and top 6 in our country if you want to base it on those things. But it all counts for nothing. Results define everything for me.
     
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  13. Nostalgic

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    Seen relegation many times over the years and seen some fine promising teams that were dismantled when a new manager was appointed. We can grumble and grunt all we want but over the years supporters have wanted the best whilst not willing to wait for it to happen leading to our big player and manager turnover.

    This season has been the worst in my memory for injuries and for all we clamour for bigger signings only big money will attract them to us without the guarantee of performance. I am coming to the conclusion that we are nothing more than victims of the way modern football is going as there are too many people involve in our drop over too long a time.

    What we do not need however, is the kind of moping we are seeing among the supporters, whatever happens the club will survive and staying away until it rises again was never the way to go in the past.
     
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  14. Horsham TomSAFC

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    Especially dripping ones!!
     
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  15. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Not if its piss.
     
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  16. mackemwelder

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    I'm with Common this one FTM
     
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  17. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    I'll have a celebratory drink (or ten) for you tonight Comm :emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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  18. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Aye. Enjoy it.




    Damn.
     
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  19. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    :cheesy:
    Its not that we've had much to celebrate of late :undecided:
     
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  20. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Steer clear of them horses.
     
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