1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Bob sacked.

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by neveroffsidereff, Dec 27, 2016.

  1. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2012
    Messages:
    30,384
    Likes Received:
    13,499
    I said the exact same thing the other day. You can see in the way he words his post match interviews that it's always the players fault. He is always blameless.

    Jack Corks interview on SSN was interesting today. You can tell from it that the players had no faith in Bob whatsoever.
     
    #101
  2. PGFWhite

    PGFWhite Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    12,677
    Likes Received:
    6,938
     
    #102
    ValleyGraduate12 likes this.
  3. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2012
    Messages:
    30,384
    Likes Received:
    13,499
    You could see that the players had no faith in him after a few weeks.

    Take Cork for example, he's gone from being one of our main players, someone who always chase, presses and puts the opposition under pressure to being like a pub player.

    Watch the 'real' Jack Cork show up against Bournemouth.

    As you say, the fact that the players applauded the fans speaks volumes.
     
    #103
    seabreeze, Stumpy and Taffvalerowdy like this.
  4. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2012
    Messages:
    30,384
    Likes Received:
    13,499
    According to the Daily Mail, some players in the squad nicknamed Bob, Ronald Reegan.
     
    #104
    Taffvalerowdy likes this.
  5. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2013
    Messages:
    14,656
    Likes Received:
    19,721

    So what you are saying is that the decision to sack him was not influenced IN ANY WAY by yet another hammering on the field of play ?

    The crowd reaction may have had an effect, since it would have been hard to ignore, but quantifying that effect would be impossible to assess.
    An angry mob making it's displeasure known, wouldn't have gone unnoticed, but who in their right mind pays much attention to fickle football fans ?
    Ultimately, it was another abject performance that was the final arbiter, since it WAS possible to quantify the loss of yet another three points.
     
    #105
  6. Taffvalerowdy

    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    126,398
    Likes Received:
    225,203
    Garth Crooks:

    "As for poor old Swansea? Well I was of the opinion that Bob Bradley didn't have the qualifications to do the job in the first place. However, he appeared to be a thoroughly decent man who deserved a little more than Swansea fans were prepared to give him. Chanting 'we want Bradley out' did nothing to enhance the team's performance or the reputation of their fans and frankly they didn't have to be so mean. Bradley deserved more but the fans got what they wanted and Bradley has gone. Who do the fans want now? Ryan Giggs? Is he ready?"

    I didn't enjoy the atmosphere on Monday - but given the circumstances, did Crooks expect the fans to politely applaud and chant "For he's a jolly good fellow"?
     
    #106
  7. Stumpy

    Stumpy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    3,831
    Likes Received:
    3,624
    If Bobs plan was to reduce us to a team all other came to practice scoring against, then it succeeded.

    Under Bob we became unrecognisable as a football team. We practised passing around midfield and that was our 'style', just passing around midfield. In defence and attack there was nothing and no matter who we played it always seemed like a mismatch.

    We were in turmoil when the Bewildered one arrived and it took him only 85 days, 85 wasted days, to reduce us into nothing and leach away any hope that remained after Guidolins exit. With Bob Bradley at the helm games weren't about how we'd play but about how embarrassing we'd be. We'd actually become the cliché 'It not about winning but about how many we'd lose by'
     
    #107
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2016
  8. PGFWhite

    PGFWhite Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    12,677
    Likes Received:
    6,938
    Not according to Bob Bradley!
     
    #108
  9. JackPA26

    JackPA26 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2011
    Messages:
    525
    Likes Received:
    210
    I hope you're wrong about this. It's unacceptable to think of a player not giving 100% because they don't believe in their manager. If you or I chose not to perform at our jobs because we didn't like our boss, we'd be out, not the boss. The players are highly payed professionals and need to be professional in their jobs. Trouble is, player power has been an issue at our club since Monk took over from ML and it needs to be addressed. It only takes one or two bad eggs to drag the others down.

    As for Cork, he's just not good enough anyway and I don't think we'll see much more from him.
     
    #109
    DragonPhilljack likes this.
  10. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    25,120
    Likes Received:
    10,536
    Fulton is better than Cork in my view...............<ok>
     
    #110

  11. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    25,120
    Likes Received:
    10,536
    #111
    Taffvalerowdy likes this.
  12. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2012
    Messages:
    30,384
    Likes Received:
    13,499
    I fully agree, but player power has been rife at our club for the best part of a decade now.
    The big question is why have numerous managers lost out against player power? Is it because they have Huws ear? - we can't blame Monk for the past 2 managers.
    We need to rebuild from the very beginning and kick a few of these players out, for me, starting with Taylor (who I suspect is one of the main 'player power' members)

    At his best, Cork is a very, very good player - one of those types that does a lot of the unnoticed work. He'll be a different player compared to the last 6-7 games, and whilst totally unacceptable, that's the way modern day football has gone and I agree, it stinks.
     
    #112
  13. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2012
    Messages:
    30,384
    Likes Received:
    13,499
    At his best, Cork is much, much better.
     
    #113
    seabreeze likes this.
  14. PGFWhite

    PGFWhite Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    12,677
    Likes Received:
    6,938
    Are you and Cork first cousins by any chance? <laugh>
     
    #114
  15. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2012
    Messages:
    30,384
    Likes Received:
    13,499
    The way he's been playing lately, if I was, I'd have broke his leg <laugh>
     
    #115
  16. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2015
    Messages:
    10,099
    Likes Received:
    7,293
    Bradley was a poor hiring of a manager by a poor set of new owners... who knew somewhere between little and nothing about SCFC and probably never will ....dangerous times on the heels of great times at the club
     
    #116
  17. Bap666

    Bap666 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2012
    Messages:
    1,128
    Likes Received:
    589
    Bradley ranting on US TV again. He really needs to let it go and stop blaming everything else.
     
    #117
  18. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2013
    Messages:
    14,656
    Likes Received:
    19,721

    I wonder if the vilification of Bradley will be as intense as it was against Laudrup, and eventually Monk ?
    Or will people get a life, and let bygones .....
    Sadly, this place doesn't do bygones.
     
    #118
  19. Bap666

    Bap666 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2012
    Messages:
    1,128
    Likes Received:
    589
    Is he being vilified? Can't say I noticed. I can't speak for anyone else on here but I am just calling it as I see it.
     
    #119
  20. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2013
    Messages:
    14,656
    Likes Received:
    19,721
    Of course he's being vilified. Don't you read the posts ?
    Your 117 post is vilification. Time to leave the man alone now.
     
    #120

Share This Page