Big Sam - England Manager

That really threw me, I thought you had lost a few marbles (was in United/Premiership mode)

So who do you think knows the players better than a man who has been pitting his teams against them for 20 years or more?
Maybe some top foreign coach who has seen some of them in the odd CL game he has played against them

 

Yes he is English. But he was exceptional in his incompetence. He had a **** WC and should have been sacked. That does not mean that all English managers should be disregarded

 

I'm going to leave it there lads, as I can't help feeling I've either entered the Twilight Zone or I'm the subject of some elaborate joke

It's simple, let's just see what happens... and I promise when the ineviteable does happen, I won't say I told you so

 

No to Klinsmann. He was manager for the 2006 WC, but his biggest asset was motivation - the tactics etc. were done by his assistant, Loew, hence the sustained success. Bayern are scathing of his time there and his record with the US is average. People in Germany have fond memories of 2006, but they were bemused by the links to the England job.

 

One thing we can probably agree on Trebs : for all the ( correct ) about the lack of development of good English players, the lack of development of good English managers hurts us just as much and is just as damning.

 

Correct what

 

Eh??

Did you not watch the Euro's that finished a mere couple of weeks ago?

Won by Portugal? Playing functional football based on a team and not individuals. With an old school manager who has never really managed at the very top?

That Euro's?

And do I need to mention Greece...............................?


What Allardyce will bring is absolutely perfect for tournament football.

 

Couldn't agree more!

He's clearly lifted spirits up of the team in Sunderland. What an improvement he's made there. Lets just hope they can bring in a new manager to keep the changes on the up!

Be real. Can you imagine Woy Hodgson motivating you? Me neither!

Come on Big Sam!

 

This.

Hodgson failed not because he is English but because he is just an incompetent old useless git. If he couldn't pull the wool over the eyes of even the RS then he must be really ****.

 

Dear God

 

What a sad tale this one is! FA is a joke!

 

Roll out the usual 3rd string names again - Pardew and co. Latest betting showing Gareth Southgate as the favourite followed by Steve Bruce and Glen Hoddle - the cream of international talent

 

You'll find out soon

 

I actually think England could really do with fresh young manager like Gareth Southgate. Someone that can connect to the players. All the other names are just names. If Southgate can progress from U21 ideas, I think he would do well.

 

I don't think he's mentally cut out for it. It's the poisoned chalice of football management, completely thankless. I can't see Southgate coping with that.

Which ever way you look at it, Allardyce was set up. The fact he was greedy and stupid enough to go for it and completely deserves what he got doesn't remove the fact he was set up.
The press are horrible. They do not support the England manager, ever, and will look for a flaw or angle from the word go.

That said, someone hast have a go and my own personal opinion is the best man for the job is Wenger, once this season is over.

The right age, not over the hill by any means, fresh from the premier league and a great manager.
Perfect.

In the meantime, give Southgate a crack.

We must not, under any circumstances, pick one of the other 'old school' English heads being bandied about like Pardew and Redknapp. They're just another Allardyce waiting to happen.

 

I agree that Allardyce must hold himself completely accountable. BUT my goodness, the press! They are the worst of the kind. It really has become extremely toxic dealing with them. And they call that investigative journalism? Very sad press culture. Entrapment by the press whose sole reason for it is to generate sales should be illegal.

 

Sadly true. In the absence of any real hope of England success, the press will gleefully continue to encourage England failure and scandal purely to sell a few more of their dying media.

Although perhaps rather than blaming the press the ultimate blame should fall at the feel of the intellectually sub par individuals who continue to lap up such scandal and failure with a sense of glee. If no one spent so much time and effort focusing on England, the players and the manager, the press would have no option but to move on.

Agree with this - Wenger has proven in the last few years that whilst he still struggles to get a consistent PL run going he does manage to perform well in knockout competitions.

The only real question is whether he will break his Arsenal contract, potentially throwing away the highest level of job security in the game, to take on a poisoned chalice.

 

I actually suspect there has been some long-standing bad blood between Fat Sam and certain sections of the press. I don't think this 'sting' operation focussed specifically on him, but rather he got a mention along the way and the Telegraph happily homed in on him as the most high-profile figure in what seems to be a largely EFL based enquiry.

However they were solicited, the opinions and views he gave were his own and for him to denigrate his predecessor having managed the England side for only one match was a particularly low blow. he has been exposed for what he always was - a wheeler-dealer who has sacrificed many principles throughout his career in order to make even more money. FFS - isn't £3 million a year enough!!

 

Agree with Wenger, Rufflad. Not that I'm arsed about England FC. Only England cricket