Alvaro Morata

But it's a 50m difference...

 

I know, and I get what you are saying vis a vis the price.
But its gotten to the stage now where we will just all drive ourselves crazy if we continue to focus on the price.
In a world where Pogba goes for nearly £90m, anything is on the cards. Football clubs have more money than some governments nowadays, and they can obviously afford all this lavish spending, so its probably better from now on if we just ignore the price, or try to judge the value of players based on common sense, since common sense is certainly not being employed in these deals......

There are other things to consider as well. United probably made their Pogba money back in shirt sales within a month.
How many Ronaldo shirts you think Real Madrid shifted world wide when they signed him.
Chelsea aren't Real and Morata isn't Ronaldo, but Chelsea DO have the second largest global fanbase of all PL teams.
If they spend £70m on any player, chances are they will recoup most of it back within the first couple months in shirt sales and other merchandising that came about through the purchase.

Its ****ing crazy I know, but thats 21st Century football, so what ya gonna do?

 

A schoolboy.

 

A ... schoolboy

 

Exactly, 3 years of maturation does wonders for a player.

 

Honestly, where the **** do people get this ridiculous cliche from?

Let's say United get a fiver, tops, for every shirt sold with Pogba on the back. Firstly bearing in mind that United sell shirts the world over every day anyway, regardless of who's name is on it.

So, to make the £90 million back in 30 days that is 593,333 additional shirts sold every day with the name Pogba on the back.

Really? You reckon that happened?

 

United earn about £23 for each shirt sold.
Would need to sell about 3 and a half million shirts to earn the Pogba fee back.
Given you have a global fan base of an estimated 700 million, you would only need 5% of your fan base to buy a Pogba shirt.
totally feasible.
Not saying it happened but totally feasible.

 

That would be on the assumption that they wouldn't have bought the shirt anyway - just with another name on the back.

 

I have good reason to believe that Alvaro Morato may well get labelled "not all that" or even "crap" on this very forum should he have the temerity to sign for Chelsea in preference to Manchester United ... just a feeling

 

Well revenues went from about £400m to £515m so whatever it was, that paid for Pogba.

 

No, they don't.

Adidas pay United £75 million a year to wear their shirts, there's no way they then give 50% of every shirt sold.

As I said, these would have to be additional shirts, on top of those being bought anyway.

All this two weeks/one month shirt sales alone is an absolute myth. Don't get me wrong, there will be additional revenue for merchandise and over the period of his contract then I don't doubt the fee will be covered but not in two weeks and not in one month.

 

£23 is not 50% of the shirts price
A new United top, with the lettering on the back, costs about £70.
A plain one is like £49.99, then the lettering and numbering costs about another £15-£20.

I work for Adidas just so you know, so am kinda privy to this kind of information.

 

Figure quoted here is £23.82 per shirt, United earn.
Which is about right

http://mufclatest.com/can-paul-pogbas-shirt-sales-pay-for-his-transfer-no-heres-why/

He does go on to say that United probably wouldn't be able to recoup the entire fee in shirt sales, but from what I know about Adidas royalties, the figure is about right.

According to United’s online shop, the printing and badges cost an extra £13.61. If we’re being optimistic, and United earn all of that plus 15% of the shirt revenue, that amounts to £23.82 per shirt. Which means, to cover the full £89 million, United would need to sell 3.736.356 Pogba shirts.

 

Mate, I think we 'only' sold about 3 million official shirts worldwide at the last count.

I have no doubt that over the course of Pogba's stay here, he'll pay for his transfer in merchandise and advertising revenue, but not shirt sales and not in 30 days.

As it happens, I reckon a huge portion of that fee is gonna be written down by FIFA anyhow, it looks like a classic case of 3rd party ownership going on, with Raiola apparently due 40% of the £89m fee. At the time of negotiations, United were adamant that Juve paid the agent and this seems to be exactly the reason for it. Juve could be in trouble again.

 

I hadn't factored in the numbers and lettering but, as Tel pointed out, United don't sell that amount total, let alone additional Pogba only ones because everyone got excited he signed.

That also assumes that the lettering and numbers is all done in United shops, which it isn't given that Sports Direct and JD etc. call all do it themselves.

The only fact here is that United do not recoup the transfer fee "in shirt sales alone". At all.

 

Nah you're right, I was a little zealous in saying that, i will concede.
Offsets quite a lot of the transfer fee though.

 

I'm sure it does over the period of his contract, no doubt.

 

Same bloke said the same thing about him joining United. About ten times a day.

 

I reckon you can bank on it mate.