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Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by Cliftonville, Mar 1, 2022.

  1. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    Whats the decision?
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    No idea, can’t see anything
     
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    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    Is there a rule about the GK not being allowed to pick up the ball after a dead-ball kick? This is to prevent the GK simply tapping the ball to himself and then drop-kicking.
    I think this is the case (not googled)
    So in this case it would be a free kick - the same as if he’d picked up a back pass. A bit harsh considering the adverse weather, but the weather isn’t taken into account with these decisions.
    Am I close?
     
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  4. Red Alert

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    Retake goal kick???
     
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  5. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    Well done. Indirect free kick and in the pro game a red card.
     
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    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    I used to work closely with a qualified referee and on quiet night shifts he used to quiz me on some of the rules. This particular example wasn’t discussed, but I remember 2 in particular:

    A defender lies stranded on the ground with a boot off, the GK elsewhere with the ball rolling towards goal. Instinctively he picks up his boot and throws it at the ball, deflecting it wide and missing the goal.
    What would the referee do?
     
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  7. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    Award a penalty and send the player off.


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    BCFC V Blackburn?
     
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  8. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    Correct
    An object thrown by a player's hand is treated as an extention of that hand. It would be treated as a deliberate handball preventing a goal, punishable by a red card and a penalty.

    Interestingly, I'm not sure what would happen if the defender's boot wasn't thrown, but kicked - or flew off his foot. I assume it would still be punished in some way.
     
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  10. AshtonRed

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    We were lucky it wasn’t retaken.
     
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    Got one there Klose is trying to get goal side!!!!
     
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    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    It probably wasn't retaken because both sides had several players in the penalty area and who was the ref supposed to pull up for the offence? On the subject of missed calls by referees here are my list of offences that never get penalized:

    1. Feet on the pitch at throw-ins. Kalas does it every time on his long throws.
    2. Standing over the ball when the opposition are about to take a free kick and refusing to get back the required distance.
    3. Goalkeepers coming out of the area when taking a kick downfield from their hands.
    4. Crowding the ref on every decision.

    Would the addition of sin bin offences stop this nonsense? Juust a thought.
     
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  13. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    If both teams encroach its retaken.

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    If accidental its a dropped ball as it interferes with play. If its deliberate its an infringement = penalty and sending off. I will go with I think not 100%.

    In junior leagues sin bins apply to 4, but it should be used at the top level. Dissent can be a yellow card and ten minutes in the sin bin. Teams would alter their behaviour.
     
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  14. realred1952

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    law 14 is quite an essay and ...............
     
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  15. Red Alert

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    ME its ok as long as the feet touch the line.
     
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    I like the idea of sin bins, used properly they’d get rid of a lot of arguing with decisions and time wasting, although they could be used to encourage the same if not used correctly, I imagine players deliberately trying to get opponents sin binned to gain an advantage. Sin bins and strong refs are what is needed
     
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