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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by monacoger, Aug 25, 2022.

  1. monacoger

    monacoger POTY 2021

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    Watching Rangers qualify for the Champions League last night in one of the Rangers Supporters Clubs in London last night. What a guy. Are you lot pleased with him so far?

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    i,'m not but others may be. Poss a nice bloke but clueless on subs.
     
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  3. Steelmonkey

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    Got a lot of Rangers fans who are mates up here who rate him highly....time will tell if he's up to the job of managing our basket case of a club on the shoestring budget that he's been given. It isn't going to ve overnight success, that's for sure, but I'm all for giving him a chance this season.
     
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  4. monacoger

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    Think I saw that you have scored a couple of late goals to salvage points?
     
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  5. monacoger

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    That surprises me, anyway, hopefully he does well for you.
     
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    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    I disagree on his use of subs.
    I think he's used them pretty well.

    Needs time.
     
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    Needs to stop going on about the sweaties and Villa and concentrate on the job in hand. All very well being pally with ex colleagues but he doesn't work for them any more, put your effort into improving us and stop jollying it up in the boozers. Set an example and run off that excess fat on the training ground trying to get Dykes to improve his shooting !
     
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  8. SW Ranger

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    Maybe he’s looking for a striker in the boozer.
     
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    Well, I heard he tried a couple of shots himself.
     
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    I am quite happy at moment.
    He's been unlucky with injuries...which we ALWAYS get...and he has rearranged the medical team.....so he recognised that problem...time will tell if he is on top of all our problems ...and we have a lot.


    We need to give him 2 full seasons to show real progress
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    I thought the medical team were meant to be the heroes until the second half of last season
     
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  12. monacoger

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    I take it he has had some assurances that he can spend a bit of money on players?
     
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    <laugh><laugh><laugh> We don’t have any money and we never will have without selling our best players.

    He will have known the business model before joining, no excuses there.

    I like him and hope he can get his ideas across in what is an incredibly tough environment at the club and an insanely competitive league.

    Of course patience is not the most prominent characteristic of the football fan. At the moment the dissatisfaction is mainly towards the owners, because they are trying to develop a sustainable football club and are putting in over a million a month just to pay the wages, while some fans would like them to repeat the stupidity of a few years ago and take an insane gamble on promotion by buying loads of overpriced players. But doubtless if we are not near the top six come October, Beale will be targeted. Hope he has thick skin.
     
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    I like him so far too. Early doors and he’s still settling in to the club and the squad. He’ll know there’s a LOT to be done now he’s in the mix.
    Yes the medical team has been re-structured, I envisage he will have something to say about the youth set-up too. That could ruffle some feathers, so we’ll have to see how that develops.
    I like he’s honesty and rhetoric, we’ll have to see if it can be maintained and bought into over a sustained season or two, or three. He’s going to have to find his legs as a manager and I look forward to him being a big success with the first team and pulling through prospects we bring in and youth players we develop.
    Tough job though!
     
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    monacoger POTY 2021

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    I wasn't using that as an excuse, I was more meaning that I would have thought he wouldn't have taken on the job if he wasn't going to be given some money to spend. Apparently not though.
     
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    No problem. There is very little money in Championship football, it’s all about survival, the imbalance with the Premier League is insane. I suspect the attraction of QPR could be a new training ground (in use but under construction), a clear philosophy on player development which Beale is big on, and a low bar for success - get us near the play offs, great job, in them - superstar. Potentially a good platform to kick off a career. But he’ll need a lot of luck, it’s a beserk industry.
     
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    monacoger POTY 2021

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    The Championship must be one of the hardest leagues to get out of, there are some big teams in it. What actually happened with QPR anyway, didn't they get fined a ridiculous amount of money a few years ago even if UEFA allow the likes of Barca, PSG and Man City to flaunt the rules at will? Like I say, I don't really know the story but as somebody looking in from the outside it seems that you were treated harshly to say the least.
     
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    £42 million fine. To be fair not paid in a lump sum, but hanging round our necks like a mortgage for years. We were very much a test case, one which taught the EFL that if it applied it’s rules strictly lots of clubs would simply disappear. Now they favour points deductions.

    The fine, though not perhaps the size of it, was deserved, the club was run with no thought for sustainability, a massive bet on staying in/getting back to the PL. I think the owners held their hands up and reacted with dignity. Especially given that they have thrown away over £250 million on the club, mainly on wages for players that Mark Hughes and Harry Redknapp liked, and are still having to subsidise it.

    It really does hurt to see other clubs essentially getting away with it, or treated differently. Nottingham Forest in particular.

    What was it that your lot got sent down the leagues for? Was it liquidation and restarting as a new entity?
     
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  20. monacoger

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    Contrary to popular belief, the old company who owned Rangers hasn't even been liquidated yet, that process is still ongoing. We were very much a test case too with regards to EBTs, which were legal at the time. With the big tax case hanging over us then nobody would have wanted to buy us. As it happens I think we ended up winning that case on appeal(or maybe HMRC appealed again, can't remember) so in actual fact there was a lot smaller tax bill that probably wouldn't have put potential buyers off. As long as UEFA, FIFA and the people who matter recognise that we have 150 years of unbroken history and it annoys Celtic fans then I am fine with it all. Considering we started off pre season training 10 years ago in the 4th tier of Scottish football with only 6 registered players, I think we have done pretty well. A Europa League final last year and in the Champions League group stage this year. Hopefully we put in a good account of ourselves against the Scousers!
     
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