Heres some interesting stats which I will share and then destroy all in the same post. In the past 4 seasons, Ashley Young has assisted 41 league goals and scored 27 league goals. Nani has assisted 28 and scored 17. WOW, how good is Young. Certainly makes Nani look a donkey doesnt he. Conclusion....LETS SELL NANI.... STOP Seems to me this isnt the whole story.... Nani in those 4 years played 95 games, Starting 73. Young played 144 games, starting 144. This changes things. Nani - 45 goals/assists in 73 starts (95) Young - 68 goals/assists in 144 starts (144) --------------------------------- This isnt aimed at anyone, its simply to correct anyone who has any thoughts of Young being better than Nani. We will not be selling our best winger. Fergie only sells when he needs and its in the best interests of the club. What use or gain do we get from selling Nani and gaining Young? None!
Another Nani thread from you? Are you sure YOU'RE not Nohlman. Anyway impressive stats for both players though if Nani leaves it's not because he isn't good enough, it'll be something else concerning him and Ferguson. Perhaps for his attitude for being dropped at the tail end of last season for Valencia or something. Whatever happens, keep him or not. I trust Ferguson.
Its actually due to something I was involved in on the evil that is facebook. Thought I would share it. It really does show how good Nani actually is and that he is also the most consistent of the 3 because Youngs and Valencias stats aint exactly rubbish. We have a very very special player on our hands in Nani and its just so annoying people want him to be sold or think he will be sold. Its madness. I seriously doubt Fergie wants to sell him. Its not Fergies style at all. I have explained why before.
It is Ferguson's style. We don't know why Nani was dropped towards the end of the season. He had something to say about being dropped for the Champions League Final and Ferguson doesn't like his players speaking out about him in the media. I'm not saying any of this happened but it could have, because Nani is a very petulant person. If he has, and his attitude isn't up to scratch then he could be on his way out. Besides I think Ferguson would sell him if he were to be part of a player + cash swap with Inter for Sneijder.
No Fergie gets rid of players who are past their usefulness. Beckham, RVN, Keane. Nani being upset about not playing in the CL final is a good thing. Shows hunger and lets hope it makes nani step up his game even more next season. People also forget nani started almost 3 times more games last season than he has ever started at United.
Beckham, van Nistelrooy and Stam were not past their usefulness. They all wronged Ferguson and disrupted team morale. Keane did the same thing but was past it anyway. Yes it shows hunger but it also shows petulance. Berbatov come out with class and said he was ashamed of himself. Nani come out and said Ferguson should have started him. There is a difference. Like I said I don't want Nani sold but if Ferguson thinks United can cope without him and that Young is a good replacement then that is fine by me.
Fergie decided Becks and RVN were past their best in terms of United. Stam did wrong him though I didnt mention Stam lol.
Beckham was sold because he had turned into a bigger name than Manchester United itself. He was too big for his boots and Ferguson didn't like that. He still had a top notch 4 years with Madrid where he was still as good as he was at United. van Nistelrooy had two top class seasons at Madrid until injuries led him off track. He went to Hamburg and had a decent couple of years. The reason he left was because at the time van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo hated each other. He chose Ronaldo and was vindicated with his decision. Also the last straw with van Nistelrooy was that he left the Millenium Stadium when he found out he wasn't in the squad for the Carling Cup Final.
In terms of United they were past it. Beckham as you say became a circus, thats not what United want or need. RVN and fergie had a breakdown in the relationship but Fergie also realised that he was no longer right for the team and a change was needed. He was right.
RVN wanted out, not Fergie chose Ronaldo. Did RVN say to Fergie "sell him or me"? I am actually asking as I do not know if he did or not Also he is willing to put up with the Rooney circus, I never though I'd see Fergie go to the press like that over Rooney wanting to leave, the old Fergie would have shipped them out faster than sheite through a goose as with others gone by, All I am saying is that in the past he wouldn't have took that from Rooney, having to chastise him in front of 10s of millions of people. He's mellowed a bit I don't think you can compare Nani and Young until te end of the season when young has played with the same players, I think Young has a far better disposition and mentality than Nani and will provide more assists and Becks was sold because Fergie lost control over him to Posh
I think Fergie knows that this current team is and probably will be built around Rooney, and buy selling him would require not only a replacement of a player, but structure, formation, gameplan. I think if he had the time he would have sent him packing, but he isn't just worrying about his team anywmore, i think he's keeping one eye on the team he's going to leave behind.
I think Rooney is very replaceable with the cash ye'd have gotten for him, I think you are letting his little late flurry and the goal at City paint a better picture of what he's adding. I honestly think Rooneys cards are marked and when Fergie finds it is time he can go he's gone, Fergie wont forget and I bet he LOVES rooneys agent too
RVN had been falling out of favour for a while before he left. I think SAF recognised that whilst RVN was a quality striker he was not what the team needed. After all, he was with us from 2001-2006 which was our leanest period in PL history with only one title in five seasons. The falling out with Ronaldo was imo just a symptom of the fact that SAF was looking to reduce our dependency on RVN, thus training Ronaldo to turn inside and shoot rather than just cross it to RVN time and time again. I don't honestly think SAF handled the Rooney saga any differently from any other player who made a similar request. He made exactly the same announcement to the press when RVN and Heinze requested to leave. The difference with Rooney is that SAF recognised that it was Rooney's agent who was in his ear telling him to ask for a transfer request in order to get higher wages. Instead of caving in and giving power to Rooney's agent he called his bluff. Rooney then backtracked, apologised and agreed a contract at wages that were much lower than he was originally asking for. And since then it's been clear that Rooney has been well and truly put in his place and is back to playing for the team rather than being a spoilt little twat
It would seem that way with Rooney if you look at it logically. But if you examine the man himself, his ego is enormous and you can see it in his goal celebration, no running to fans or team lately, just runs to a spot arms out soaking up the glory, not running to the provider of the cross, all him, pure egotistical behaviour, you are not building a team around me, again sheer ego, I should be getting paid astronomical wages even though I have been poor since last season, again.. His agent of course wanted the maximum but Wayne if happy would have told his agent to shut it, common sense. he wasn't happy his ego was not satisfied and it all went where it did I think, I am no crystal ball gazer now! Agreed RVN was not happy and wanted out, not chosen to go over Ronaldo
I thin we do forget the start of the season, but we also forget the season before that, when he showed us what he could do. After that he had a torrid world cup, family problems and his agent in his ear telling him he could do better than united. If Rooney gets back to his best next year, there's only a handful of player who can replace him and none of them are moving any time soon. Tbf to Rooney, after that part of the celebration against Man City he turned and bowed to the fans, don't think that the Sky Cameras picked it up though
The celebration and even the bow were for Him obviously he get a nice ego lift out of it. Anyway no secret I am no fan of this man, and not of his performances since the year following Ronaldos exit I guess I am taking this way off topic but only as it was going that way already
The Young v Nani debate is getting old now anyway, we've got them both. His ego is well balanced by Hernandez's fantastic attitude. But i love our little pea!
