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Would you like to see 3 car teams?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by El_Bando, Oct 23, 2014.

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Would you like to see 3 car teams?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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  1. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Just interested to know the forums opinion.


    Also please feel free to discuss any 3 car 'teamery' here
     
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  2. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    Abstaining because to be honest I don't care, but I think the additional financial costs would kill the sport.
     
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  3. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I would prefer customer teams, it would cut the costs for the smaller teams and provide revenue fopr the bigger ones, thus cutting duplicated R&D costs
     
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  4. Smithers

    Smithers Well-Known Member
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    Agree with Miggins but this is how I Would see it if it were to happen. I have voted yes but only because I see the current issues as financially unmanageable for small/new teams to compete.

    Ferrari - Kimi Räikkönen, Sebastian Vettel, Nico Hulkenberg
    McLaren - Jenson Button, Fernando Alonso, Kevin Magnussen
    Mercedes - Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg, Adrian Sutil
    Red Bull - Daniel Riccardo, Daniil Kvyatt, Max Verstappen
    Toro Rosso - Sebastian Buemi, Vergne, Jaime Alguersuari
    Williams - Valtteri Bottas, Feliepe Massa, Mark Webber
    Haas F1 - Alexander Rossi, Charles Pic, Will Stevens
    Forza Rossa/Lotus - Romain Grosjean, Sergio Perez, Pastor Maldanado
     
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  5. BrightLampShade

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    If there were to be a third seat I'd like to see something put into place to ensure that seat goes to young talent. None WDC scoring perhaps, and with a limit to chopping and changing to avoid some teams having weekly pay drivers.
     
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  6. happyal

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    I too would prefer customer F1 teams, I'm not sure why the sport is so against it.

    I voted yes, as I would like to see a 3rd car too, even if we did have customer teams, more numbers on the grid are better for everyone.

    Mercedes - Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg, Adrian Sutil

    After Sutil's and Lewis's falling out, this might be interesting :)
     
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  7. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    If 3 car teams were put in then surely red bull would shut down STR and merge into 1. Maybe this is why they havnt announced Verstappens team mate? MAYBE this is why Alonso hasnt been announced anywhere? or could it?



    ...or could it?
     
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  8. Smithers

    Smithers Well-Known Member
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    Just for entertainment value!

    @pitlanetalk: Red Bull ready for three car teams in 2015. http://t.co/nLXBLNGHma #F1 #Formula1
     
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  9. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    I see no reason why a team could not run a 1 or 2 year old car if they chose too. They could still develop it themselves to a point through the season and it would still be fairly competitive. Either way, a big time and cost saving compared to designing and building a new car.

    Good business all round, always used to be done.

    I guess top teams concerns is if they switched allegiance to another constructor they may pass over some secrets, but F1 seems to be so open at the moment I doubt there is much going on within the teams that others don't know about.
     
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  10. JonnyBaws

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    I see nothing wrong with 3 car teams..
    I wouldn't limit the 3rd seat to a new/up and coming driver, why deprive ourselves of a Vettel, Alonso, Hamilton super team (if anyone is brave/stupid enough to have them all in the one team).
    All cars can score points towards the WDC but, the third car finishing in the top 10 doesn't qualify for WCC points.
     
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  11. Julius Caesar

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    Just imagine how dire this season would have been with 3 car teams. We'd barely ever see another car on the podium let alone fighting for the win.
     
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  12. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Big no from me. It doesn't take a genius to figure that these smaller teams wouldn't be continually going under if they actually got a reasonable share of the money that goes around in the sport. It does however take a greedy, self serving tyrant to prevent that from ever happening.

    These small teams just can't survive in the long term on the scraps they are fed. How are they supposed to ever develop and grow in to viable teams?

    The money needs to go back to the teams and the tracks... not to Bernie! If we go to 3 car teams, we might as well just turn off. F1 needs diversity.
     
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  13. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    How about single entry teams? Just think if Marussia and Caterham only needed to fund one car? I know their R&D costs wouldn't be much lower, but everything else would be almost halved, which would mean they would have more of their budget for improving the car rather than spending it on wages, transport costs and repair bills.
     
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  14. SgtBhaji

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    Yeah... I'd be all for that if it could cut their budgets enough to help them survive. They shouldn't have to though.
     
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  15. TomTom94

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    You know sarge you should stop beating around the bush and just tell us how you really feel. ;)
     
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  16. cosicave

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    It is said that variety is the spice of life. Three cars means less variety and is not the spice of F1 life!

    With a practical limit of approximately 24 grid slots for present day F1 circuits, I far prefer to see 12 different types of car; that's 50% more than we'd see with only 8. The idea should not even be considered, and I think is little more than Bernie nodding (once again) to Ferrari. I cannot see it happening and thing he is just stirring things. He is a clever businessman and knows that the surest method of retaining (near) absolute power is to sew discontent amongst the teams so that they never all see eye-to-eye.

    Besides, despite restrictive regulation (which is necessary), without the little teams and the 'garagisters'
    – who are not really far off the pace – creativity and innovation becomes less rather than more likely.
     
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  17. cosicave

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    Just read your post, Miggs. I almost suggested the same 'ideal'. However, it is essentially impractical.

    From the point of view of paddock space, team attendees and pit-space, it is far easier to accommodate 24 (ish) cars if this space and these people are – at least to some extent – shared.

    But I'm very pleased to see your comment. It provides a genuine balance (by way of logical counter) to Bernie.
     
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  18. cosicave

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    I agree in principal with the idea of larger grids but there is a limit (as discussed above). This currently sits at approximately 24 grid slots and is the result of both practical and safety considerations.
     
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  19. TomTom94

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    I thought we could have up to 13 teams, or did that change when USF1 pulled out?
     
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  20. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps 'approximately 24' needs to be loosened a tiny bit. I avoided 'approximately 25' because of the odd number. How about 'up to 26'?
    :)
     
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