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Would you be morally/ethically comfortable as a Man City o Leicestan fan now?

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  1. mussiesredhat

    mussiesredhat Active Member

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    i ve followed the fans forum thread and as that thread is now drifting into the realms of a 'financial fair play' thread, i think its time to start one of its own. Generally speaking, as football players' earnings become even more obscene and football clubs continually seek to twist the financial rules in ethical terms so this situation can continue, could you be comfortable as a fan of Man City, Chelsea, Crawley, (the list spirals)? To name but three, they operate illegally in business terms, and grossly unsustainable in ethical terms.

    This sports relief sham last night brought it home to me. Apparenlty, the average WEEKLY earnings of a Premiership footballer is £22.5k. The Premier League (god bless em) donated £250k. That's £2.4k per player apparently. If (say), all the Premier League players as a group gave a week's wages to Sport Relief, that could possibly save 3 African countries! Add to this the unethical and morally bankrupt schemes that clubs are now devising to ensure that this financial mess continues, it needs a few clubs to be exposed for what they are doing to OUR game.

    It was interesting to hear of the lady who walked out of the City of Manchester Stadium during the week when Tevez walked on. She has vowed never to go back into the stadium whilst he is playing. I'd ask her, what she feels about the rest of the salary stealing squad and the financial rot that is now the Manchester City club!

    Are Leicester the next Man City waiting to happen?
     
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  2. kccircle

    kccircle Well-Known Member

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    Why should the footballers donate a weeks pay? Did you?

    Footballers get paid that figure as someone decides that they are worth it. There has been a period of boom in this industry which will now start to be regulated by 1) financial fair play, and 2) the knock on effect from Pompey and Rangers as businesses look to manage whatever credit is issues to these businesses.


    On a separate note I see Rangers were involved with Ticketus - wasn't that an operation that Duffen wanted to use as a vehicle to sell season tickets - just wondered whether we actually went down this route in the end?
     
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  3. Gawge

    Gawge Well-Known Member

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    Everybody thinks that those who earn more than them have some sort of special moral obligation. Until they get to that level themselves of course, when they just point to the next step up. Everybody thinks it is somebody richer who should be doing the donating - when you start donating most of your wage to charity, then i'll be more inclined to listen.

    We are the people who support these wages. If you go to football games, if you watch games on the TV, if you read the sports pages etc... you are cause. You can't blame it on the footballers, I certainly wouldn't turn down their wages.

    If Hull City got some rich owner and took us to the top of the Premier League, none of us would be moaning (for a while anyway). All the other clubs do it, the emphasis is just on Man City because they have risen so quickly. Fair play to them, i'd like to see them win the league this year, it's someone different and it will make those long-term fans happy.
     
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  4. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    It was indeed and he did raise cash against two seasons future ticket sales, similar deals were done with Plymouth and Watford, it's caused problems for everyone who's done it.
     
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  5. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but dont you work in the banking/mortgage industry?
     
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  6. Newland Tiger

    Newland Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Sadly the only answer is to stop giving money to Sky etc.

    I must be in the minority with you Mussie but I wouldn't be comfortable with us been like Leicester now

    I can't even relate to Man City and don't watch the premier league
     
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  7. Nick HCAFC

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    If there was no money in football the game would die, like it has in Scotland since Rangers cash boom in the eighties gradually fizzled out. Blackburn were the Man City of the 90's, it goes round in circles.
     
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  8. Gawge

    Gawge Well-Known Member

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    No.
     
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    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    Stupid of me Gawge - I thought Mussie suggested one week's wages
     
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  10. mussiesredhat

    mussiesredhat Active Member

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    i dont. never have.
     
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    mussiesredhat Active Member

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    put another way and based on the figures presented, i am suggesting that a footballer earning £1.2 million per annum donates 1.8% of his annual salary. looking at it those terms, it less than half the tax break that cameron and his puppy dog, cleggy have just given them!
     
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  12. Nick HCAFC

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    Footballers are more interested in salvaging their hairlines and writing bollocks on Twitter than giving to charity it seems to me. I saw the other day that Orthodox Jews are expected to give 10percent of their income to the less fortunate so maybe charities in Israel do quite well.
     
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  13. PLT

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    Agree with Gawge a bit here. There isn't really an argument against footballers' wages. They are paid wages which seem incredibly high, but the very fact that someone is willing to pay them it suggests they are obviously worth it. Put simply, they are worth that money to their clubs because by showcasing their talents to the public, they bring that money into the club.

    People who are massively against clubs like Man City spending money and quickly becoming good, that's TWS logic. The idea that there are 'big' clubs who somehow deserve to be at the top forever and anyone daring to disrupt that is in some way wrong. It's nonsense.
     
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  14. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member

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    If I was worth £100m I wouldn't have donated to sport relief
     
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  15. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    I wouldn't either, but you're still a twat.
     
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  16. City1904

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    There is nothing wrong with footballers wages, there wages are that high due to supply and demand. There are basically two people in the world (Ronaldo and Messi) who can claim to be possible football greats, where as there are tons that could claim to be an accountant, a soldier or whatever other job etc.... So therefore supply for them type of players are low, but demand is high, therefore the high level of wages.
     
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  17. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    FFP will sort out the big spenders and its long overdue. Its crazy and totally unsustanable and if allowed to carry on as of now will end in <cry> <wah> The likes of Glasgow Rangers Birmingham City and Portsmouth just being the tip of this iceberg. The game is currently <cracker>
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

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    It would be if there were only 104 players in the Premier League, it's actually more like £500 per player.

    I don't like telling other people what they should be doing with their money, there's plenty of them running their own foundations and making large donations, particularly the African players. Drogba paid £3m to build a hospital, all the England players give all their match fee's to Cancer Research UK and Help for Heroes, pretty much all Premier League testimonial money goes to charity and high profile players like Beckham have raised tens of millions.

    I don't tell anybody what I donate to charity, it's nobody's business but my own, the same is true of everyone else, including footballers.
     
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  19. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    This.

    But don't forget OLM, those players sometimes have sex with women so they are actually terrible people!
     
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  20. Pat E O'Dors

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    Would you rather they were having sex with men then?<whistle>
     
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