From Beeb website, speculation Cesar could be off to Brazil/S America on loan? He needs game time and we need him off our books - hopefully the deal can be done World Cup 2014: Can Julio Cesar still be Brazil's number one? By Tim Vickery South American football writer Comments (135) One of the most memorable interviews I have done was with Taffarel, Brazil's goalkeeper at the time, as the squad flew out to a warm-up tournament before France 98. It was only a quick chat, but the fact that it happened at an airport gave it an extra edge; in a public space, with excitement rising as the World Cup approached, it was much easier to grasp the truth about perhaps the most pressure-riven job in sport. Perform badly, or just make one significant mistake, and Brazil's goalkeeper will be letting all these people down. Taffarel made it fairly clear, as much with his body language and what was said between the lines, that he was not entirely confident about his team's chances. He seemed doubtful - with full justification as it proved - that Brazil would defend with the same solidity which had proved so important in winning USA 94. His subsequent actions bore out his doubts; a few weeks later he fixed up a move to Galatasaray. Had he waited until after France 98 he may well have got a better deal, because he had a fine tournament. But going into his third World Cup, he was well aware of the risks. Harry Redknapp â Julio Cesar is a fantastic goalkeeper. He's the Brazilian number one goalie, he's won the Champions League, he's won everything there is to win. He is such a talent, but he's here and we've had not one single club, if I'm honest, come in and want to take him, which I'm surprised at. I thought there would be some big, big foreign clubs come in for him â Harry Redknapp QPR manager Brazil's goalkeeper can often be on a hiding to nothing. There are few chances to play the hero, and lots of opportunities to be the villain. 1950 keeper Barbosa was never forgiven for letting in the deciding Uruguayan goal at his near post. Poor Valdir Peres in 1982 is another example. The first shot fired at him in that World Cup was a goalkeeper's nightmare - the ball that bounces treacherously in front, always more difficult than it looks. He let it squirm through him, and Brazil were a goal down to the USSR. They hit back to win, but Valdir Peres never fully regained his confidence - not easy for a keeper when most of the action is taking place at the other end. And if the scoreline is tight, it means that every decision taken by the keeper is a possible catastrophe. Julio Cesar knows all about it. He was immense for Brazil in the 2010 qualifiers. Come the tournament, one ill-judged move off his line gifted the Netherlands their equaliser in the quarter-final and changed the entire complexion of the game. Concentration has to be honed to perfection, and the keeper needs complete, instant confidence in the decisions he takes - far easier, of course, if he is getting a regular game for his club. This is where the Julio Cesar situation is starting to become alarming. A year ago it was by no means an obvious decision for Brazil coach Luiz Felipe Scolari to recall the Queens Park Rangers keeper. But Scolari felt his team needed more experience, and the move proved a masterstroke. In the early games, when Brazil were defending badly, Julio Cesar stood up strong, and he was a safe pair of hands when they tightened up to win the Confederations Cup. Seemingly unwanted at Loftus Road, though, problems loomed when he failed to get a move during the summer transfer window. Scolari swatted away the speculation. Back in September he announced that come what may, Julio Cesar would be included in the World Cup squad. He did not, however, guarantee that the QPR man would be first choice. How could he, if the keeper was not getting a regular game? But at that stage, Scolari could not possibly have imagined that another transfer window would open and shut without any progress. His favourite keeper is not left totally on the shelf, however. The January window is a European affair. He can still move elsewhere - indeed the favourite scenario has always been that of a six-month loan back to Brazil. But this is not quite as simple as it once might have seemed. A new, improved TV deal was more temptation than Brazil's clubs could resist. They have overspent, and are cost-cutting at the moment - all the more so since there is little meaningful club football until after the World Cup. The State Championships, being played at present, draw pitiful crowds. The national league does not get under way until the end of April, and anyway is currently beset by legal doubts. The most likely option, then, would be a club disputing the Copa Libertadores, South America's Champions League, where the qualifying round is currently halfway through and the group phase kicks off next week. But here, too, there are few options. Botafogo have Jefferson, Brazil's second-choice keeper. Cruzeiro are captained by Fabio, an excellent keeper cruelly overlooked by the national team. Reigning champions Atletico Mineiro have Victor, the hero of last year's triumph. Flamengo have a well-established number one in Felipe. Atletico Paranaense are a possibility, though their keeper Weverton performed well last year. But they, too, are cutting costs, and anyway, first they need to overturn last week's 2-1 defeat to Peru's Sporting Cristal in the qualifying round. All of which means that the most obvious choice is Gremio of Porto Alegre. Last year their goalkeeper was the veteran Dida, who has made a successful comeback after flirting with retirement. But he has moved across town after rivals Internacional offered him a two-year contract - which opens up an interesting vacancy. Last week, Julio Cesar said that he was in advance stages of negotiations with the club. Gremio, however, were quick to deny it. It would seem that the club are not interested in a short-term loan, and may not be able to afford something more permanent. It need not be Brazil, of course. Julio Cesar could sort out a deal with a club in the Libertadores from somewhere else in the continent. And if QPR do not want him, then it is surely in their interests that a club keeps him active and pays any percentage, however small, of his considerable wages. As for Julio Cesar, one would think that he, too, would be willing to show plenty of flexibility in order to get a regular game and ensure he stays Brazil's first-choice goalkeeper for the World Cup - even if the post carries with it the risk of going down in football history as the villain.
I read the article on the beeb with interest and am glad that it is posted here for discussion. Hopefully a deal (probably a loan) will still be done to get him off our books, but it is looking rather bleak and time is running out. However, should he not leave us and play regular football somewhere, then I can envisage a crazy scenario where he will be in the Brazilian squad but not as 1st choice goalie. It is a bizzare situation, but probably doing wonders for Green's self confidence. Let's hope he stays injury free!
I'm not normally petty, vindictive, sour and downright vicious however...... I hope that he makes a vital mistake that means Brazil qualify as 2nd in their Group having to play Spain in the last 16. Brazil have gone 1 up and are coasting to half time until Cesar inexplicably stays on his line instead of claining a straight forward cross which Negredo geefully headers in. The crowd turns on him as he's heading down the tunnel. Mid way through the 2nd half an ineefective Spain side which are holding on try a speculative shot through Busquets that can at best be classed as a Robin Reliant of a 35 yard daisy cutter. Cesar dives way too early when he could have walked accross his goal and can only watch as the ball trickles into the net. Try as they might Brazil cant get back into the match and the BBC refuse to cut towards the pictures of a crying and howling Cesar. Not one of the Brazil players goes over to console him and the media frenzy at the end of the match is like baying wolves. Cesar then quotes the following: " I cannot explain to you what I was thinking when I went to England - I saw donkeys like Zamora, Young, Johnson, Wright-Phillips, Bosingwa, Granero, Cisse, Mbia earning fortunes and doing f all fo the money that, that is how I though things went in England" he goes on - " I also saw that you could behave like a count (our Joey) and still be loved by the fans. I call on all of Brazil to blame QPR for the greatest team on Earth not bringing home the World Cup on home turf" " I call on the favelas to uprise and turn against these Devils in Blue hoops - I am innocent, I am Julius Cesar - Have you not heard of me? I have done nothing wrong - Which one of you would not have taken 80K a week for doing nothing?" Cesar is seen being drageed to the ambulance and withheld forcibly whilst shouting "I'll pay!!, I'll pay!!!" That's good to have got that one out of the way - Any threads between Imaz,Swords and Uber going?
That's an interesting scenario Danish! Maybe his fat bulging wallet has weighed him down and he was unable to come for the cross? Whatever happens, we need him out of the club on somebody else's payroll. He needs gametime, but needs to curtail his extortionate wage demands if he is to get this anywhere. Maybe he could head to Russia - isn't their transfer window still open? Surely some of the clubs out there could afford him, and there are plenty of Brazilians already plying their trade in that league.
Danish please tell us all what you are taking. I want some of that next time I need to conjour some creativity! Great post.
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Obviously we want to get him off the payroll, but, as we are still paying him, why on earth is he not on the bench every week?
I believe someone had previously mentioned that by not having him on the bench the club saves a £17K per week appearance fee?
Really disappointed with Cesar. The worst example of a modern footballer- more interested in money than playing the sport.
Yes, why throw more good money after bad. Along with many others, a crazy contract he was given with no relegation clause, plus it unsettled Rob Green. Tony F got totally fleeced and taken to the cleaners.
At the time Green's play was already extremely "unsettled". He was playing with absolutely no confidence at all before we were ever connected with Cesar, and that lack of confidence seemed to have spread thoughout, the defense at least. Remember the 0-5 on opening day 2011/12?!! IMO, one thing Arry gets big credit for is getting Green's confidence up again. Also it is hardly Cesar's fault if he is offered and accepts an extremely good contract, but the fault of whoever was a part of offering him that - be it Hughes, Beard, TF, or most probably a collective mistake by the 3 of them and perhaps that Head Scout we had in back then from Man City - forget his name now. I don't know that Cesar is to blame now either for the current situation, it seems strange that while we have managed to loan out so many others it hasn't happened with Cesar - even with what we read about the financial situation in South America etc.. Are the Club really trying to move him on? Perhaps there are half hidden financial benefits in having a potential World Cup winner on the books, other than that he can step in if Green loses it again, though I have a feeling he will be going to a new Club before the Summer.
Good points you raise to balance things out. I'm just really surprised that in two transfer windows nobody came in for him - I imagine that we would also be willing to subsidize his wages too. Was a bit odd just bringing him back for the Everton FA Cup game where we really put him in the shop window, but maybe in the big picture that was all part of the master plan?
Yes they're really trying to move him on- Harry's constantly touting him out during press conferences. Clubs have inquired about his services, realised how absurd his wages are, then withdrawn interest. Plenty of teams would happily take Cesar if he was prepared to take a wage cut, but he's not because he's a greedy sod. He's 35 this September, so doesn't have too many "prime" years of his career left. That doesn't bother him though, he'd prefer to not be playing football in favour of making a quick buck at our expense.
Apart from Harry talking about him at pressers, how are you so sure about all this then? Did Cesar tell you this personally that he is a greedy sod etc?! According to what Arry is quoted as saying in the OP there hasn't been one Club in for him. and he's surprised that no big big foreign Clubs have come in for him. Maybe Cesar is being greedy. Maybe also the Club are expecting a far better offer than what has been proposed so far. Maybe lots of maybe's unless you are his best mate or employer or what?
Yeah, but its Cesar that wants to play in the WC, and he knows if he is not playing, he probably wont be going, so the emphasis is on him to compromise. He has the most to lose. Anyway he is a footballer, who wouldn't want to be playing regularly, or at least in the mix for some game time. Agree it is harder for goalkeepers. And we want shot of him, so.....dont think it is that difficult to work who is not compromising sufficiently to gain worthwhile employment
Over summer clubs made inquiries, even during this season prior to the January window opening they did. Harry confirmed this, as did various news agencies. Remember the links in the press to Arsenal and Sunderland, and European clubs? I can only guess that by the time it reached January, any interested party had already discovered that Cesar costs far too much.
