Off Topic Worker rights

[123Daveyboy]

Very much so
However there is jobs with very little or no flexibility

The government and many others don’t realise manual workers can’t work from home

 

[Montysoptician]

It's the rights vs responsibilities thing again. Employees rights are very important and its good that more employers are recognising that. However, there are jobs/sectors where significant responsibilities are bestowed upon the employee. In too many cases, there are people who believe that their rights are more important than their responsibilities, which leaves more diligent people to pick up their slack. I don't see this in the sector that I work in, but I am aware of it in other sectors. (Also, I'm obviously being deliberately vague). Employment law/workers rights/government ministers don't seem to anticipate these problems.

Spot on Norton, the responsibility is double edged though. The employee has a responsibility to carry out their duties to the best of their ability and the employer has a responsibility to train, develop and support the employee to carry out those duties in as safe and secure environment as is possible.

 

[FellTop]

It's pretty straightforward to get rid of a poor performer, all you need is a fair process which gives the employee notice that they need to improve and provide support to do that over a reasonable review period. It's beyond me how so many employers find this difficult.

Modern HR in my opinion. Too afraid of appeals, unions, PR.

Then there is a % of staff these days who I believe feel they are owed certain rights and privileges based purely on how long they have worked somewhere, and not on the contribution they make. Public sector pay scales lend themselves to this sort of attitude.

 

[FellTop]

Companies should probably do a better job of hiring, training and motivating. Business is more often than not completely dysfunctional these days from what I see. Completely bereft of strategy and long term thinking. We pretend that we can turn round companies by turning the screw and getting rid of a few bad apples low down. Most of the time, a business would perk up immediately if you just culled the c suite.

I can only really comment on my experience mate. It is hard to see how folk can moan about their training and things done to motivate them. It is a rich life for many. Yet many do moan, and moaning is almost a profession in itself for some. Too many get away with the bare minimum and expect annual pay rises above inflation, a job for life and a cushy pension at the end of it. Sadly many get exactly that, and many others pick up the slack left behind.

 

[Daz]

I'm lucky I'm at a company that's flexible with working hours. I can drop the bairns off on the way, pick them up after and then work the remaining hours when I get home. It works both ways, they allow me to be flexible so I'm willing to be flexible for my employer too working late when needed but only if I'm available.

Luckily my career allows flexibility and it's the way all companies should be if it's possible in the role.

This issue is there is no way a standard set of guidelines can apply to every industry and career.

 

[gelders pie]

I'm lucky I'm at a company that's flexible with working hours. I can drop the bairns off on the way, pick them up after and then work the remaining hours when I get home. It works both ways, they allow me to be flexible so I'm willing to be flexible for my employer too working late when needed but only if I'm available.

Luckily my career allows flexibility and it's the way all companies should be if it's possible in the role.

This issue is there is no way a standard set of guidelines can apply to every industry and career.

You've hit the nail on the head mate. Nothing ''standard'' and same will work for every individual and every company/industry.
All comes back to common sense, communication, respect that each party should have of the others needs . No jealousy between employees ( if they are having something, then i want it even though I don't need it) and a good work ethic to do a good job regardless of where you do it. The old fashioned idea of honestly knowing that you deserve your pay packet because you gave good value for it.

 

[Row 3]

Are you talking from experience, my experiences whilst running/owning several businesses over the past 46 years lead me to believe the opposite.

Experience of sitting on Employment Tribunals (lay member). If a lot of employers put as much effort into just having a proper process and following it as they did to trying to evade responsibility at ET they wouldn't have a problem.

 

[Row 3]

Modern HR in my opinion. Too afraid of appeals, unions, PR.

Then there is a % of staff these days who I believe feel they are owed certain rights and privileges based purely on how long they have worked somewhere, and not on the contribution they make. Public sector pay scales lend themselves to this sort of attitude.

Nowt to do with staff or pay scales mate, just piss poor HR practices by employers that really should better prepared.

 

[Vincemac]

It’s going to be difficult to implement

 

[John Wick]

The government and many others don’t realise manual workers can’t work from home

Agreed. I work shifts myself. Seems the whole approach will benefit office/clerical workers. Seems they've been trying to abolish Monday to Friday 9-5 for a while now but it's fine for the rest continue to work bank holidays, weekends etc.