And by that, I mean the Player of the Season award... I don't think there's anybody else who's had as many stand out performances this season, the man's been a revelation. My only fear is that his (unfairly gained) reputation will stop him getting the credit he deserves, as it does in the MOTM threads on here every week.
McShane looked a completely different player yesterday to the player he was when we returned to this league.
Bollocks. He's done alright in certain games, yesterday included which have been dramatically exaggerated. He's not a patch on Chester, Hobbs or Faye. But there have been games we've lost due to his ****e defending. Orient first leg we only conceded due to his typical wrong-side marking of Mooney. Blackpool he loses Phillips completely on the wrong side of him and gives Amos the choice of waiting to be beaten or storming out and making a tit of himself and for some reason no one notices and Amos gets the blame, against Wolves at 2-0 up he completely misses a simple cross which ends up hitting 3 players and going in off Chester, but he missed the simple clearance at the front post first, everyone blames the goal on Amos for a poor kick about 30 seconds earlier. He's no different to the player he's always been for us IMO. He's still irrational with his daft little tricks when he's the last man, yeah they usuall come off but one day he'll get tackled and cost us a goal on top of all the ones he costs us with his hilarious marking. This season, whenever Chester has missed a header people are on here saying "He's not the same player as last season." yet when McShane gives these goals away like against Wolves, Orient and Blackpool (also Bristol City which didn't matter in the end but still it was his ****e marking again) it's just ignored completely, which it no doubt will be again when this post is quoted. As for PotY so far, Elmo or Quinn I suppose.
Faye has cost us goals this season and Hobbs has hardly played so to say McShane hasn't been a patch on them is abit exstream.
When has Faye cost us anything? As far as I can remember he's hardly put a foot wrong and neither has Hobbs, who obviously hasn't played much but he's done well when he has.
I've seen no sign of his piss poor performances in the Premier League affecting his MotM votes on here, his good performances have been recognised on every occasion.
ISTPLT, i know you'll say I'm ignoring McShane's mistakes, but TBH it's more you making them up. Bristol City sticks out in my mind, I seem to remember the right back (Elmo?) losing his man leaving McShane to cover at last minute. I don't know how you can say Faye has been better than McShane, as he's looked far more of a liability than Macca has this season. Probably because McShane hasn't been one at all. As for Hobbs and Chester, Hobbs has barely played this season but he's never put in the sort of stand out performances McShane has been putting in this season. That's no slight on the guy, I'm just saying McShane is a better defender than him. Chester too, for all the plaudits he gets, has been outshone by McShane this season. McShane has been burdened with a reputation he never deserved, and I've no idea why people are so desperate to hang onto it.
Im not saying Hobbs hasn't played well, he has, my point was saying McShane hasn't been a patch on Hobbs and Faye is exstream in my opinion, all our defenders have had really good season's including Bruce, the difference for me with McShane is he's come back into a team were most fans didn't really want him around, two previous managers didn't want to know him and played very well more often than not. Chester has been a different class 90% of the time which is why he's been linked with Premier league clubs this season but Faye has only been as good as McShane for me and Hobbs has done his job well in the few games hes played but no more.
I've given clear examples of his glaring errors and you're saying I'm making them up. You were probably at these games and must have seen them. You've argued against it just by saying things like 'stand out performances' which can be said about anyone if we're doing so without explanation. Chester for example, regularly defies physics with his last-dtich tackling, that's outstanding. What does McShane do that stands out so much? (in a positive way) The only thing I can think of is these flambuoyant little turns he does in the centre circle now and then which are just an unecessary risk. Yes it's nice when they work and I cheer with everyone else at it but it isn't the sort of thing I want my defenders doing on a regular basis. Is there somthing else he does?
Maybe "making them up" was the wrong term, but you sure do go a long way to blame McShane. Hard to put into words without saying "stand out" again, but for me, McShane absolutely bossed it last night. Every time they appeared to be about to get through on goal, it was always McShane who was there to stop them. Gandalf has let more past him than McShane did last night. I'm not having a go at Chester, 'cos he's a decent larker, but I think he's let a lot more go by him where somebody else has had to clean up after him. Whereas it's barely happened with McShane this season. Subjective I know, but that's football.
He's consistently been one of our very best performers this season. He'd be a contender for my vote, what irks me is people still protesting he's '****'. They're either stupid or blind.
McShane has done well this season and shown character to bounce back the way he has, but Player of the Year? Nowhere near. Elmo or Aluko by a country mile, Aluko would walk it if it wasn't for the 2 injuries he's picked up. McShane picked up a reputation of being **** because he was **** in the Premier League, that wasn't unfair. You can say he was played out of position but then Browny played half our team out of position and no-one gave sympathy to the likes of Garcia, ***an and Geo.
I'll never understand why people insist on sticking stubbornly to their original point of view. It's like a ****ing politicians irrational fear of making the dreaded u-turn. When i slate a player who turns out to be a good one,i couldn't be happier,because it doesn't mean i was wrong,just the player improved.
McShane is ****. End of. Even last night he got turned a few times, was outpaced by Mackail-Smith of all people, was caught on the wrong side of the striker a few times as their winger approached and on one occasion just stood and watched as they had that shot in the first half that Stockdale had to save. ISTPLT is right. Anyone who disagrees isn't paying attention properly because he quite clearly gets found out and exploited as a weak link every game. It's the other lads that bail him out and he's genuinely getting away with it and coasting through. We swap him for their Upson last night and we win that game. He's still on high wages and needs to go as part of the revolution along with Oli. Player of the Season? You must be mental. Don't get why he's a fan's favourite now. He has his reputation for an obvious reason and nothing's changed other than he's playing in a system at the moment where his errors are less costly.
