Why

Why do people just seem to roll over and take Ashley's side on every ****ing matter? He could probably make us a franchise and move us to Buckinghamshire and people would claim it is a good decision

Seriously I will be having a party when he sells and you're all invited

 

Sounds tempting. Can you please move away from Sheffield first though...?

 

Just because not everyone overreacts and calls for his head doesn't mean they're necessarily on his side. It's better to be rational, think of what's actually going on beyond what we're told and avoid any manipulation attempts.

 

I think you are insulting your fellow fans by assuming they don't judge each event and decision on its merits. I certainly do.

Let me ask you this. Why are you so unwilling to forgive his early mistakes to the extent that you are unable to acknowledge when he does something right?

 

Stockholm Syndrome has resurfaced

 

I'm definitely not, absolute dickhead here.

 

I'm just waiting to see how events unfold during the transfer window.

 

Even if we were to sell Nolan and somehow sign a bunch of world class players and finished in the top 7 next season with prospect of going higher, there'd still be a load of people shaking their fists and saying "But I'll never forgive Ashley for getting rid of Nolan!!" even though it benefitted the team and clearly Nolan played a role in the departure himself.

Just saying that some people don't want to let go and judge every decision made objectively instead of slamming Ashley every time something happens out of the ordinary.

 

What has he done right other than sort out our debts, which let's face it he did almost inadvertently by getting us relegated. He's sold a key player in every major transfer window since he's been here. He's sacked two good managers and gave others less than 10 games to prove themselves. He's never told the public anything. He's the effing dictator of our football club

 

By not calling him a fat useless **** every time he does something doesn't mean people accept everything he does. I dislike the man, and I think he has made some truly awful decisions with managers, players and the fans. But you can't deny he's made some good decisions too. Imagine what this club would be like with Shepherd and Hall at the helm? We'd be in League Two by now, not far off playing Derbies with Gateshead.

 

You throw away sorting out our debts like it is a small achievement. If we still had Shephard in charge we would be ****ed now and certainly not looking forward to the transfer window we can hope for now.

Anyway it is not just the debts, which will have taken up approximately a quarter of his net worth btw. Which otherwise he would have invested in other business' or in a whole range of financial instruments all of which would be earning him a fortune. But no he is supporting a club full of supporters who are prepared to hate him no matter what he does. Would you do that and put your money where it hurts?

He has also sorted out our expenses to bring them in line with income so that we will soon be a profit making club. To do this he has had to make difficult decisions many of which he has been blamed for by those too short sighted to see the big picture.

Selling players. Yes players get sold but he had also invested in replacements and overall we have a better squad now than before we went down and Carroll was a judas who left for his own reasons and we got a fortune for him. Until it is proven that MA doesn't reinvest this we have no justification to judge him on that.

But yes he has also made many mistakes. Yes he made decisions that led to our relegation and carries blame for that. He has also lied to the fans and at times treated us without respect. I am fully aware of the things he has done wrong and judge him for it. But I also realise that financially he has made some very good decisions for this club. I am also aware that most of his bad decisions are several years into the past and his good decisions are more current so he appears to be learning from his mistakes.

I am willing to give him a chance and I will judge his decisions made today on their merits and not pre-judge him because I hated the fact he sacked Hughton or because of any other mistake he has made in the past.

If you can't do that then fair enough but don't insult me by suggesting that I allow myself to be manipulated by him.

 

I ****ing hate articles like this.

 

Fully repped Sir.

Debt and the disability to pay off those debts is what kills football clubs. I'm not going to say any more as DT has summed it up perfectly but I'll also add here that by not immediately going on twitter and chanting "GET OUT OF OUR CLUB......" etc etc it doesn't mean I necessarily have taken his side in the proverbial argument. It means I'm sitting back and watching how events unfold before getting a clearer idea and then forming my opinion on the matter.

Knee jerk reactions only cause harm to everyone involved!

 

Ashley = Abramovic lite

 

(1) As I say, the debts practically sorted themselves out due to his incapability to run a football club in the first place, which got us relegated. You don't think the fact we were in the CCC just coincided with the loss of our top earners, do you? Anyone that could get the club money either through a loss in wages (e.g. Duff) or a big fee (e.g. Bassong) was sold if a reasonable offer came in. Every player had a price and in all honesty I don't think that was stupid. I think Ashley has done well on the debts issue but if it wasn't for his incompetence in the first place I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have as strict a policy as we do now.
Also as a side note, I don't say Shepherd was better anywhere.

(2) Not sure if you noticed but people were given reasons to hate him. You don't make money out of football clubs until you sell them. When you're the owner, you should be running it at break-even if you can. Literally the only reason he's keeping us afloat is so he can sell us at a good amount later on. If I was an owner, in which scenario would I get more money:
1) By putting in a LOAN of £150 million(?) and selling the club at £140 million
2) By not putting in a loan and selling the club for £70 mil

(3) Let's face it, nobody knows what happened. I think Ashley pushed him. I don't think it was entirely his fault, but I think he knew that if he said to a 21-year-old that they were offering him £90k a week, and that he was wanted here, that he'd feel betrayed and react rashly.

People have got so obsessed with getting debts sorted they just look short-term. With Nolan, Barton, Carroll, Hughton etc we had a plan. The players knew what the club was about and were bringing the younger players through with the right morals, as George Caulkin often said. Now what? Who's going to tell the younger players how to act? Shola? Drift around the pitch until the crowd get annoyed at you then run at someone and barge them over?

People are reverting back to the days where we had quality players that didn't really understand the club (maybe not their fault). No matter how skilful they are, do Cabaye and Ben Arfa understand the club as much as Nolan clearly did? You need glue to make a pretty chair

 

I agree with this in a way, everyone seems to buy the bullshit that Pardew spins on Pie Boy's behalf. I think a lot of it is down to the fact that we have no choice but to accept things, also his predecessor was despised by all.

 

Are taking the ****ing piss?

If you think that Andy Carroll and Nile Ranger's behaviour since they have been at our club reflects the right morals you need your head examined!

 

this

 

That is exactly what I was getting at!

 

I was talking more youth players. Both of those were first team players in the season where the team spirit was built. It's more Ferguson, Ameobi etc that I was talking about