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Who's To Blame For Last Night's Result?

Discussion in 'Celtic' started by The Raging Oxter, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    Is it the Board for failing to or refusing to invest in the team or Lennon for getting his tactics and team selection wrong wrong? Or a bit of both?

    I felt we had a good enough team to beat that shower last night and the early signs were good but putting in a brand new CB pairing in such an important match was crazy. Has Lennon not learned anything from past mistakes in that department?

    However, selling three of your best players who made up the spine of your team and not replacing them is criminal and there's a pretty good chance that the Board's oh-so-typical penny pinching could see us lose out on a potential £20m jackpot.
     
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  2. rogueleader

    rogueleader suave gringo

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    .... and playing Liverpool a friendly instead of having a competitive match
     
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  3. EDGE.

    EDGE. Official POTY 2011, 2014, 2015, 2018 & 2023

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    Do we get a poll? <grr>
     
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  4. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    Naw.
     
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  5. Admiral Pure

    Admiral Pure Well-Known Member

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    The players are to blame. They played ****e against not very good opposition and lost deservedly.

    Yes if we had better players, it would be nice, but the current mob should've done a whole lot better last night.
     
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  6. Null

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    1 - The board for selling the 3 best players in core positions and not strengthening. Gambling that this squad is good enough to make the Group Stages.

    2 - The board for arrangeing a friendly after the season has started and before a qualifier.

    3 - Lennon for his tactics:
    CB pairing, 1 was not fit and they two of them haven't played for a while.
    Not having an out and out defensive midfielder sitting in front of the two CBs
    Not playing a Striker ...especialy 1 who was bought for the purposes of bnreaking down defences who sat back.

    4 - The players
     
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  7. Bib Fortuna's Maw

    Bib Fortuna's Maw Well-Known Member

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    Should've had enough still to beat them.

    That game was lost tactically last night - not by being outplayed by better players.

    Pretty telling that, at one point, the Shakhter fans were roaring encouragement when a ball broke to their right midfielder 30 yards from their own goalline - this led to the second goal and their fans knew they could counter like that.

    The flat back five they played with the full backs tucking in to almost become extra centre halves at times and the industry and cohesion of their team overall ****ed us.

    New centre half pairing for us plus wrong personnel selection ****ed us - we had good enough players to get us through and deployed them wrong.

    The board take the blame (overall) if we don't make the Champions League but, last night, was solely down to the players and the manager.

    I know he's like a sacred cow on this board but Joe Ledley was ****ing awful last night.
     
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  8. VenomPD

    VenomPD Merrick jr

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    Put it this way, last night was the first time in the history of Kazakhstan that the rockets were in Astana and no Baikonur. 11 of them were wearing Celtic tops.
     
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  9. Tina.

    Tina. Well-Known Member

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    You're to blame, ya big prancing ****da.
     
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  10. Thomas The Cat

    Thomas The Cat Well-Known Member

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    Lennon got a lot of things wrong yesterday, the worst was the pairing at the back and not playing another forward.

    Also Forrest is regressing quite dramatically, he's an absolute pussy these days and needs to grow a pair of baws.
     
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  11. EspaniaCelt

    EspaniaCelt Well-Known Member

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    I agree with all you've said here. I'm just not a fan of 'blame' culture. The board, manager or players didn't set out to deliberately lose the game (unlike, it would appear, a certain Sevco player who backed against his own team). A gamble was taken and it backfired badly. Annoying as it most certainly is, it happens to all clubs at times so I just hope sufficient lessons have been learned in order to turn things around next week.
     
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  12. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    This <ok>
     
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  13. RAVENBLACK

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    Or perhaps, just perhaps, they are a better team than Celtic.
     
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  14. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    <laugh>

    Did you see the game ER, Shakter were terrible. I mean really poor.
     
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  15. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    If we had taken our chances early on we'd probably be discussing who we want in the CL group stages.

    Don't get me wrong. They deserved their win because they fought for it but they are a pretty poor team who rode their luck. And we were ****e on the night and made too many mistakes (Lennon and the players get the blame for that).
     
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  16. rogueleader

    rogueleader suave gringo

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    I have a feeling they will be quite adept at parking the last bus to Kazakhstan in the penalty box and we will be catching a taxi to the Europa league
     
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  17. Bib Fortuna's Maw

    Bib Fortuna's Maw Well-Known Member

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    Seconded.

    They beat Bate with two clean sheets home and away.

    Judging by last night, they've used that flat back five before - they allow crosses into the box once a team has pushed numbers forward then counter.

    The only way we'll get round them is either on the deck or having big Balde on from the start (the latter option worries me slightly as I don't rate the big man yet and he'll end up being a scapegoat if it doesn't come off)
     
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  18. EspaniaCelt

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    That impression also pervades the centre of my nervous system.
     
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  19. VenomPD

    VenomPD Merrick jr

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    Why were Rogic, Stokes and Balde in the squad if not fully fit but McGeouch & Watt didn't make the squad?

    Lennon has been going down in my estimation since the turn of the year. Another mistake easily avoided.
     
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  20. Bib Fortuna's Maw

    Bib Fortuna's Maw Well-Known Member

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    I was at the Cologne game in '92.

    All is not lost.

    I can only hope for a repeat of that.

    <wah>
     
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