What player in his right mind will come to us now ? With the managers job hanging like by a thread I can't see players jumping at the chance to join the good ship canary at ghe rate we're sinking! I'm in disbelief that CH wasn't chopped this morning.
think of it the other way Chippy, you're been too downbeat - debt free club with money to spend in the transfer window and the summer - a squad that is under-performing but has potential - big support area - seen as a friendly club - good academy set-up with some promising youngsters breaking through
Simple answer to the question - the same players who would have joined us last week!! As far as CH is concerned when will somebody let me in on the secret of who has a better chance of keeping us up. The club is run by the Board and the Chief Exec - are all you outers saying that they suddenly don't know what they are doing? Every thread on here lately turned into a ' CH out 'tirade. Every thread on here today has turned into ' CH out and why wasn't he sacked this morning ' tirade. Sorry chaps but it is getting a bit boring!!!!!
None of that is really relevant, Max. The holy grail is the ££ rewards for remaining in the top flight, anything else - though nice to have, counts for jack-****. I mean, we could get to cup semi finals most years but it's irrelevant if we're woeful in the league - which we currently are. As for your point about being debt free with money to spend - well, that's the whole point of this thread. Ambitious players - the type we'd like to attract, are hardly going to queue up to join a club that's at best standing still. For my money, Hughton has us going backwards.
I was thinking about this in relation to Gutierrez this morning. Presumably he must have agreed to come to us on the assurance that Hughton would be in the job for at least a couple of his matches?! I think despite your desperate desire that Hughton be sacked, and despite the fact that most of us (at least on here) agree that Hughton's position is becoming untenable, I really think all evidence confirms that we have him until February, shy of absolute disaster against Hull and Newcastle. The key is in McNally's comments - if we're in the bottom three, there is a problem, if we're not, no problem. Feasibly we could lose both games left in January and still be out of the bottom 3 (my guess would be that Sunderland and Palace would move ahead of us).
Inner or outer that wasn't my point 1950. Sorry if your bored! My point was what players will join us now to help get the club up and running again when it looks enevitable that the manager will most likely get chopped? The team needs fresh blood desperately ! The current crop aren't going to cut it without some help in key areas, and other than also rans from other clubs cast offs I don't see quality players giving us the time of day!
That logic is all well and good, but what concerns me is when you combine it with our run-in. Feasibly Hughton could keep us teetering on the precipice until March, until we finally drop into the drop zone. He then gets sacked, and the new manager has a run of games against top 6 teams to somehow drag us back to safety. I doubt Sir Alex could do that!
Yes that's my concern, but I think McNally will be bearing this in mind (his statement was, to my mind, more of "I'm not firing him now and the reason I'm justifying it is [x]"). If a change of manager occurs in early March, I think there would still be enough reasonable games. Equally though, our run in was considered bad last season and we did OK, but I wouldn't like to bet on it!
You could just as easily ask who will join any of the bottom 10 as you could throw a blanket over all of them. I reckon we have as good a chance of staying up as at least the bottom 8 or so and any new signing will know this and also know that if they perform and we go down they will be able to move on to another fat contract with another club. If anyone thinks that playing for us is the summit of the career aspirations for rvw hooper and fer then you are delusional
It´s only inevitable, in the form of wishful thinking, in the minds of some fans, chippy, I´m sure any incoming players look at the bigger picture.
I would go further than that and say that it is highly likely that we would still be out of the bottom three by the end of the month even if we don't take a point.But surely it's likely that we will take two,three,four (Most likely scenario) or even six points from those two games. What people don't take account of is the fact that all eleven sides involved are averaging around a point a game and it's likely that the majority of them will continue to do so.Four points from our next two would most likely be enough to keep us clear of the drop zone until the end of next month.
It s rumoured that Danny Guthrie from Reading is on our radar. He appears to be happy to come to us,but this is not surprising as he is presently with a Campionship side. Is this the level we are ambitious enough to entertain or is it that he is cheap? I would agree with the sentiments of this post - anybody who is considered to be a player who could help to turn around our fortunes is unlikely to want to come to us this January. Got a feeling this ambition with prudence again?
Guthrie, like Gutierrez, won't be responsible for a one-man turnaround in our fortunes, but he would at least help with squad depth, and provides another option, something we've been desperately lacking in recent weeks. If Hughton trusts Guthrie and would use him occasionally, then I'd rather have him in the squad than Fox, who is never going to get used in a league game unless he's our only fit midfielder.
It rankels me some what that we are so short in the goals dept & Hull come along before playing us with TWO proven prem strikers in Jelavic & Long. These are just the type of player that we should be looking to add to the squad, not Guthrie ! We need to shore the back up & score more goals it's hardly rocket science?
not sure i agree chippy. we've got strikers who are as good as those two, it's the supply that's the problem, and maybe a bit of confidence with RvW. whether jelavic and long are any good for Hull is yet to be seen. jelavic couldn't hit a barn door for 12 months at everton.
