Penalty shoot out.....all the drama......down to 10 men for half an hour.......we won one. How many games till Wembley?
Sensible it all sounded dramatic.. after 3 -1 up then a player off it was backs to the wall.. but credit is due.. I see the planning meeting or council meeting was a result for Brent today....
Quick change of subject there Joe. I don't see it as a result for Brent but more a result for the Council. As I understand it the land in question was pretty useless although somebody valued it at around £220k based on a land value nearby. The agreement for the land give away or transfer as they prefer to call it was that the rent for the stadium will go up by £30k a year for the duration of the lease. Now in my book PCC could not realise an income of around £900k from this land over that period so for them it is a result. Brent gets his hands on it and it is a result for him. So who is dipping out? PAFC of course who will have to find the increased rent out of it's budget. Remember that free grandstand we were getting....... Sly old cunning fox that one. But heyho....we have been saved.
What a Jekyll & Hyde team we have at the moment.......or are we reading too much into tonights result. In other words could it be that Cheltenham are total crap......their results suggest that they are pretty useless at present. To lose twice to Argyle doesn't it suggest that they are not anywhere near the team that they were last season. I hope I am wrong about Argyle.......encouraging that the two new signings played well.
Coming from a Lady I'm not sure how to take that comment Gat but yes I think we do. I think we should rename the stadium when it's finished. We'll call it The NHS. That's free at the point of delivery because we are told it is although it costs us thousands each in reality.
Plym, i think the team deserve some credit.. have we ever got this far in this paintpot cup before? We scored 3 goals and all our penalties.. must be a n improvement on the past...lets hope we keep going for saturday.. Gat everyone is grateful when they get screwed ... surely... except a few
The good old NHS. Well if the Grandstand is as free as Mrs Plyms Hip replacement and my two cataract ops sensible, then we are on a winner through the NHS then. Two neighbours have had similar ops to us privately and have paid a small fortune for each,just to have it done a few weeks quicker. The hip op cost £12000 with no follow up support like Mrs Plym got. The cataract op cost £3500. So that is the equivalent of £19000 (that we had) without the back up support we got......which they were told..... that if they had problems to go along to Casualty for help !!!.....plus no equipment support as you need with a hip recovery......we lent the 85yr old Mrs Plyms equipment.....which the NHS have never asked us to return as yet. Okay what the hell all that has got to do with a FREE Grandstand I just don't know.....so lets call the Grandstand "The James Freebie Brent Grandstand" we'll put a neon flashing sign high above the roof which will be lit up on match days and can be seen from Peverell as you walk through Central Park......which I will remind you good old James has spent money on refurbishing for all those lucky park users. It reminds me of Harold Macmillan.....who told us all "we have never had it so good"....although as a young man I hadn't noticed any change in my circumstances at the time.....I'm sure we will all be thanking our great benefactor.....who saved our club remember.....for all these great gifts that have changed our lives......I nearly want to move to Plymouth to benefit from it all myself....I don't think I could convince Mrs Plym to move away from the grandchildren so it won't be happening mores the pity. Now where is my tin helmet.....I'll need it before Gat answers this Brent love-in session.
joe......I do agree with you.....it's just a nagging thought in the back of my mind that worries me.......how can they be so different after half-time in some of those games.....yet last night they showed character that was missing before.......maybe it was the backs up against the wall because we where down to ten men syndrome kicking in.....but we cannot afford to have someone sent off every match....we would run out of players. I have already mentioned previously that maybe Cheltenham are playing poorly at present....nowhere as good as last season.
Do you pay taxes Plym? Have you ever paid taxes Plym? If the answer to either is yes then the NHS is not free.
Yes I pay taxes.....even chunks of my private pensions of course are taxed. But it pays for far more than NHS.........so a return of something like £19000 in 18 months is quite satisfying.
Well Plym, yes the team did do well with 10 men and as you say it was a poor cheltenham side yet again. But i was happy we held on as usually we crumble.. so i hope we are getting a bit better in those situations.. As for the NHS, yes it costs in your taxes... as for the NHS, i feel let down totally by them... i had a perfectly born son and then.. the rest is history,, can't say to much on this but i am glad it worked out for you Plym..
Not really football but not one I can resist getting in on. In my experience, the NHS is a complete disgrace run primarily for the convenience of those that work in it. Luckily, none of my family have suffered from it but both my father and my daughter have suffered abysmal care at one time or another. That's statistically significant because it's every bloody single one of the few times we've needed them in earnest, not 1 in 100 occurrences because we're down at the hospital all the time. To get things clear in view or popular perceptions of my political views, I am strongly in favour of free health care funded by taxes but it needs to be well run. Secondly, I loath & abhor the compensation culture but the NHS is a special case. It has people's lives in their hands and if they caused harm to one of mine, I'd screw them for every penny on a point of principle and in the hope it would make them get it right next time.
Distant, i totally agree with every word you put, for once ha. As every knows my son was taken ill at 3 weeks and is now totally disable, born perfect so we thought.. now its 24/7 care.. Unable to eat, see or walk.. but he is a joy to have and with great work from my partner, he now is able to see a little and hope fully will be able one day to have solid food.. I could write a book on the 2 and half years off disgrace we have had, But then again there are a few consultants that are great and do care,, Can't say to much as we have a Medical neglect claim on going which will take another 5 or so years i suspect as its been going 2 years now.. Its not case of i want money its i want closure on what and why it happened, they did not listen and now we have this to deal with and the community team are worse!! Respite?? what is that ?? i have to fight and i mean fight for every single think and chase every one.. they forget this,, all they are interested in is their fat cheque each month
Sorry to hear your NHS experience is as you say "a complete disgrace" notDistant. We have a recently built (10yrs or so) Princess Royal University Hospital....known as "The PRU" Magnificent building built with private money rented to the NHS.....PFI comes to mind...might be wrong. Most of their money seems to pay for the rent. Hence administration has happened for the South London Trust that they are part of. We as a family and people that we know have the highest regard for the quality of service that we have received there. Before Mrs Plym retired she worked there in the Clinical Measurements Dept (clerical)....so she has inside knowledge of how it works. Highly paid administrators answering to other highly paid administrators.....unbelievable red tape....but the Nursing staff and Doctors etc have still produced Quality. Kings College Hospital have been brought in to sought out the producers of red tape......so hopefully saving money. I assume you live in Plymouth notDistant and thats your local experience.......unlucky at times where you live.
Joe......I cannot begin to say how I feel for for you and your partner and your 24/7 situation......it would be completely inadequate. You obviously have been given a great love for the little fellow and do everything he needs because you love him so.....it must be so draining on your time and resources but you press on.....and hopefully those responsible will be brought to admit and say sorry for their deeds....plus compensation one day to pay all your extra expenses.
Very unlucky if you live in Plymouth. We have to travel to Bristol to get a good service for our son and have even spent time in Southampton.. The whole NHS needs a complete shake up and clear the dead wood, ie staff that do nothing and get paid a fortune,, mostly back room staff.. and community nurses on a fortune.. the reason they are in the community as they have been removed from the wards.. fact as we have one
Plym, thanks. Yes its a very big task to keep him well and going.. my partner does wonders with him.. she is constantly caring for him , its very difficult but has to be done.. Its life changing for all of us, in many different ways,.. at times its very difficult.. but its worth it when we et the smiles.. We have had to adapt quickly to the life changes. Not a lot of support from the council or Nhs .. its just one big battle and all about the money.. we are now just starting to build an extension for him.. One day we may get an apology? its not about the money to be honest.. but it will secure the care he requires and his needs. Sorry to go on. Lets get back to the football..
NHS eh? Now there's an emotional topic and a half. It's far from perfect, imo, but it's good that there is healthcare provision which is free at the point of use which after seeing what healthcare is like in places like Malawi, is important (saying that there were a few decent looking hostpitals, I see it inside as I was one of the few people that didn't end up getting ill), however it seems to have a lot of issues. Me personally, I was royally screwed by the NHS when I was a kid to such an extent that even to this day I resent everything that happened with every ounce of my being.... I can't hate it though, as I'm sure it does some good despite my experiences of it.
The problem with it is it's huge and target driven a lot of the time. Hence the numbers in the back rooms. I haven't had much to do with the NHS fortunately I supose. When I was in the Navy my wife had a severe blood clotting problem. But, I was in the Navy and RNH and the medical people in Gib sorted her out so it wasn't done by the NHS. The one I had as a kid was a brother with a brain tumor. That was a long time ago and operations and stuff for that were like in the dark ages. I have no idea if they did the best they could for him. He was in Great Ormond Street for a while and even as a kid I could see how much all of the staff there cared for what were essentially dying kids. Heartbreak hotel is about as close a description I can give to that place but they were always laughing along with the kids. As "the other well one" I often disappeared in the family which I know now was inevitable given the support and stuff he had to have. But whenever I went to that place I was treated like I existed and involved by everyone. Later in life I had to deal with my Mother's terminal cancer. Her GP was useless. The Cancer doctors in Derriford were very good although there was nothing they could do for her. The ward staff were 50/50 good and poor. Mind you she had to go into a nursing home and the staff there were much the same. Some were briliant but others were awful. One male nurse took her to the toilet or so we thought one day. What he did was wheel her to the door and then left her there even though she couldn't stand up on her own. My wife caught him wandering off the ward and challenged him. His answer was "my shift has finished". She went balistic and I thought she was going to hit him at one point. The hospital "spoke to him" after the complaint went in. St Luke's was a revelation. The most wonderful place I could ever have wished her to go. Privately run as a charity says it all. So my experiences have been half and half to be honest. Having worked in the Public Sector I can honestly say that goes for a lot of the staff there as well. It isn't just the NHS. Targets rather than people have taken over everywhere and none of it is for the good. The only thing on bosses minds is meeting those and not the quality of service they provide. I had hundreds of arguments internally over that one and am glad to be out of it now. Joe, I remember that gobby so and so who used to come on here. You have obviously mellowed a great deal since then and your little one has done that for you. I can relate to what you have to do because I watched and helped my parents do it all those years ago. It's a labour of love though and I don't have to tell you it's worth it because you clearly know that already. A strong partner is essential and it sounds like you have an amazing one so look after her as well.
