Barmby's short career as caretaker manager consists of: An impressive 2-0 away win at Derby. Leading 2-0 at home to Burnley until the 78th minute Making a strange substitution that contributed to us eventually going down 3-2 We now have what is on paper possibly the toughest game we will play this season away at Southampton. So if we do get stuffed tomorrow who will be calling for his head? And if you think he deserves more time (as I do) to prove himself, how many games would be fair?
ffs if you wasn't calling for his head on satday theres something wrong with you. i've calmed down a bit now and like a video game hes got 2 men left. lets hope he gets an extra man .
No sentiment in football. I'll give him until Cov away, 4/5 points after that from here would be acceptable, anything less and I'll be calling for a proper permanent manager. Wouldn't want to tarnish NB's reputation here though or banish him from the club, he has a very important part to play in our future whether he's manager or not.
It was his second game as a manager and he made one mistake. The team and the defence in particular are the main reason we caved in.
I wouldn't put a time limit on it, just if it begins to look noticable worse than the team under NP and doesn't show signs of changing then he should be replaced, but he'll probably know that and step down himself if it did happen. Hopefully this is all academic though.
what a bunch of ****ing turds some of you are. sentiment or not you don't start counting the minutes until someone gets fired.. especially after 3pts out of 6 and only 2 matches. pathetic fans.
So no responsibility expected of the 11 players to perform? Just the manager? No I wont be calling for his head, not unless he starts singing at games, and constantly making ****ed up selections from the start.
Whoever took charge since NP left the Club we are likely to hiccup in form. Hopefully NB can get enough points to keep us in and around the top six in the coming weeks to retain the job he's been given. He does need to get an old head in as No2 though fast. Wigley is first team coach rather than Asst manager isn't he?
Hardly counting the minutes, 6 games is long enough to judge him based on the continuity of the appointment and how these are some of our most important fixtures yet. If we get thrashed against Southampton, Leicester and Brum and even beaten by Cov it will be fairly clear he's not up to it yet. Said the same before Derby (6 games wise) and still saying the same now, if performance levels drop then we need to fix it while we still have chance to push on for the play offs, if it's clearly not working out what's the point in hanging on in hope, when we could switch things about and still push for a top 6 place. I really want him to do well and keep the job but I have the best interests of the club at heart but if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out end of, at the end of the day this is pretty much a trial period hence the 'caretaker' tag, and I don't think the club could have made a better decision at the time, not even Joyce. I think it was a brilliant idea and hope with all my heart it works.
he can have as long as he wants for me, never left a game after a collapse so calm, if that had happened under pearson i would have been livid....simply thought better luck next time nick, and made my way home , quite good for my blood pressure having him there
^^^^^This. Agree wth every word. If it's clear the experiment has failed after the Cov game then I reckon we will need to look at someopne else with the transfer window looming. But don't get me wrong because like most on here I'll be gutted if it doesn't work out for NB.
I suspect you're jumping the gun anyhow, if Nick isn't up to it, Nick will decide to stop, not you lot.
You are right, Nick will know himself, hence why he only wanted to be caretaker for the time being. However we and himself need to be given time to settle in. There will be ups and downs, and I hope all concerned give him at least enough time to see how it works out.
I suspect we just fell victim to transition: The players are in the process of finding their way from NP's strict positional play to NB's more open, attacking play - without sacrificing defensive ability. Withdraw Stewart, introduce Dawson (first time out for a good while!), suffer confusion regarding positioning, lose shape and ship a goal....etc....etc
Everybody has a right to their opinion and name calling wont change anybodys mind. Lets accept that within a group there will always be differences of opinion My feeling is if we go into a sharp decline towards the relegation zone then yes Nick should go. If we remain mid table then let him carry on.
I think you are right, also as I said on another thread yesterday we have not had to defend a 2 poal cushion very often, usually a one goal, so I think they felt with 15 minutes to go they had done enough to see the game out, and paid the price. Hopefully they will not do that again, and it maybe the best thing to happen when it did and will learn from it.
Nick has the club's best interest at heart, he'll know himself if things aren't working out and will let someone else take over for the time being while he gains more experience. I said on Saturday that we'll know probably by the Coventry game if Nick will carry on as manager or not, that's not me saying I don't want him to succeed, of course I want him to do well but the whole purpose of appointing him as caretaker was for him to try it out and if things weren't working out they could easily be changed with Nick remaining at the club and hopefully becoming manager sometime in the future.
It is crackers to condemn Barmby at this stage â he has deliberately opted for caretaker so that he will be able to exercise his own judgement with dignity; we as âsupportersâ should allow him that option. But as fans and supporters we should use these discussion boards to look at the game as a whole. The positives were we played some sexy football that was a pleasure to watch, we dominated play for long periods and we scored 2 goals taking a clear lead; this against a fairly poor Burnley side and a delusional referee. Another huge positive (which I have not seen mentioned) is that Gulacsi had a terrific 75 minutes; he dominated his box, he collected with confidence and his distribution was generally fine â any goalkeeper would have struggled to cope with the defensive capitulation of the remainder of the game. But what about the negatives: Rosenoir accepted - does any of our squad have any heading ability. We lost a clear goal scoring opportunity from a free-kick because Fryatt ducked a cracking delivery. Brady left a lot to be desired. Stewart showed how well he can pass a man, but why is it so rare? Do Brady and Stewart have to interchange wings so bloody often??? Have we an aversion to using the corners of the pitch â our runs were very predictable which is probably why a very average defence were able to snuff out our final plays, time and again. Our inability to ride out a 2 goal lead is now well documented â but remember this is a team that is supposed to be indoctrinated with Pearsonâs âdefend a 1-0 leadâ mantra from earlier in the season. There is much we can discuss â the substitution was a one-off, we have to get over it â my biggest concern is the same as at the start of the season â our lack of height.
This game is a different proposition to what it would have been a month or so ago, under Nigel Pearson, Hull were not an attacking side, a 4-1 defeat at Leeds aside, six of their opening seven games finished 1-0 to either Hull or their opponents, and even after that a low scoring draw was the more likely outcome, but in recent weeks there has been a change about them, they are scoring more, but conveersely they are letting in more as well and Saints can only be heartened by the way in which they gave up a two goal lead in the last 12 minutes at home to Burnley on Saturday, it seems that in his quest to make them a more attacking side Nick Barmby has had to lose a little of their defensive steel and that has to be good for Saints. From: http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/fb_news.php?storyid=14973
