Liverpool seems to have a culture of oh woe is us but frankly life doesn't work that way,Ibrox suffered a disaster where 50 odd died and nearly 800 on two occasions but only football fans who know their history acknowledge them which in itself is sad.Bradford is another one plus the stadium collapse in Africa and brazil. I could probably name many more but it would take too long,the thug culture of the 70's brought the fenced in grounds but thankfully most clubs were able to isolate and control the violence. Not long after Hillsborough I was working in St Johns wood and two scousers came in the pub we were in after work with a charity pot collecting for the disaster fund and I asked where is your I.D. One had a claerly false cast on his leg and took it off outside,it goes on everywhere i suppose but that was one incident i witnessed. To just sum up I am sick of the victim culture with Liverpool we've all been wronged and done wrong.