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who is the current best overtaker on the grid?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Di Resta is faster than u, Apr 16, 2012.

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who is the current best overtaker on the grid?

  1. Webber

  2. Button

  3. Hamilton

  4. Alonso

  5. Other (who?)

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  1. Di Resta is faster than u

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    I don't intend this as an argument, just to see where current opnions lie.

    If other please say who.
     
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  2. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member
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    Massa can do it backwards....

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    Other than that I think theres a big bunch of drivers who are very well matched and it fluxuates from race to race at the moment.
     
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  3. Delete Me

    Delete Me Well-Known Member

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    Stick them all in a RB, put them behind a Sauber in China and lets see who really is the best because I didn't see anybody get past Perez yesterday so that's the test for my best overtaker.


    Whoever can do that wins in my book.
     
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  4. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member
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    In that case its Alonso and Kobay :p (I think)
     
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  5. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    Button. <ok>
     
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  6. Eat Sleep Watch F1 Repeat

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    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    You're far too easily impressed!
     
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  8. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    Formerly Kobayashi, but his team's continued reliance on long tyre runs has tamed him somewhat.

    Button has to be right up there. Hamilton didn't do too bad a job in China either it has to be said... Not sold on Alonso, reckon most of his overtakes at the minute come from sitting back and profiting from other squabbles.
     
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  9. BrightLampShade

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    Hamilton seemed to be jumping a lot more people in places other than the main straight than the rest. Whether that was just from what we were shown or not I'm not sure. There were a few guys looking very racey on Sunday <ok>
    Was great
     
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  10. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    Hamilton is by far the best at times, but sometimes is too aggressive and at other times he's looked tentative behind other cars. Alonso and Button make sensible calculated moves, and when they're aggressive it almost always works - but sometimes they both look content to sit back and relax while someone like Hamilton would attempt an overtake. Webber is very good, but like Hamilton is too aggressive at times.

    I don't think one driver stands out. I voted Webber as no-one's voted for him yet.
     
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  11. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    I would have said Hamilton but he spoiled his reputation last year and now seems somewhat tamed, although he was very, very good yesterday in Shanghai. Senna was superb in Sepang, maybe he's one to watch.
     
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  12. North North Watford

    North North Watford Active Member

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    Kobayashi for me. He's up there with Hamilton in terms of how bold he is willing to be in trying to overtake, but the deciding factor is that Kamui has a better success rate.
     
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  13. di Fredsta!

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    What classes as the best? The one with most? One who can pull some good ones out? Ones who never get it wrong? Too many variables, so i didnt vote. I dont know why Webber is on the list however, any time i see him do an overtake he's either got by far a better car or cocks it up. Even Vettel is better than him. And probably Karthikeyan too.
     
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  14. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I would say Kobayashi, he rarely gets it wrong, even when his team-mate tries to swipe him and put him on the grass he still makes it stick.
     
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  15. Kyle?

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    I voted Kamui, the last of the late brakers, yet his moves are usually clean and fair.
     
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  16. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    Hamilton's have-a-go mentality has spread throughout the field, it seems to me, including to those defending from such attacks. Button had the highest number of overtakes at some points last season, which I think is impressive for a 'smooth', careful driver but, in my opinion, the intelligence and planning Button often puts into his overtakes is far more satisfying. Hamilton is exciting and daring. Button, too, needs to be brave to make his work but he also displays more of an element of manipulation. I prefer this to simply instinctively taking advantage of an opportunity that opens up.

    Of course, all drivers know how to force the car ahead to take a defensive line into one corner, putting them out of position at the next - Button just seems to be the best at manipulating the situation beyond that, thus protecting his car and tyres by not steaming up the inside locking wheels and banging into defenders.

    I'm not discounting Alonso's courage and intelligence, Raikkonen's speed-enabled passes or Kobayashi's banzai moves but Button's have repeatedly been the most enjoyable to me.
     
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  17. cosicave

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    Good morning folks!
    This is a simple but interesting question
    Sea-Man.

    Despite the collisions of last season, I've plumped for audacious Hamilton - who's instinct for overtaking is only approached by Kobayashi. Hamilton has borrowed from Button and has learned to be a little more circumspect; but he is still the most natural 'overtaker'.

    Jenson Button is another top candidate for this accolade: he has also borrowed from his team-mate! Some of Button's moves have been sublime.
     
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  18. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    1. Kamui
    2. Mark
    3. Fernando
     
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  19. nh-f1

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    I voted for Hamilton, but I must say Button has really improved. He used to be a bit too careful, and so spent far too long behind car.

    I think that the two being team mates has allowed them to learn from each other with overtaking. Hamilton has learnt to back out of a lot of moves this year, that would have seen him take his wing off, and Button has become more aggressive, giving himself more clear air.
     
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  20. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Hamilton best overtaker? did no one watch last season?
     
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