Before i start i'm NOT saying i want Hughton sacked, but i'm starting to think with his style of play, it's clearly not working & i'm starting to worry he will take us down. Sorry i'm sounding a bit negative but i can't help it, with us only 4pts above the trap door. I'm hopeing you can help to change my mind, but im finding it hard to see where the points are going to come from with his style of play, we are not creating enough & as you know not scoring enough goals either. So all i'm saying is, maybe i'm being a bit silly & worrying for nothing but i can't help it.
Only a few points are required to stay up, a lucky win and a couple of draws and should be fine. As with several other posts on here, I'm more concerned about the style of play and how much it will change next year. Signing the wolfs penis, doesn't indicate more attacking ambitions, merely a higher probability of converting half chances, but I'll wait to see. The potential incoming midfielders will tell us more, although the attacking players we have are stifled currently, so lets hope he changes tactics next season and hopefully in the PL
I'm confident we will get enough points this season..just. Then I'm happy to allow him the opportunity to purchase/develop an attack, much like he has our defence, til say Christmas. If then we are still playing dire negative football I'll be calling for his head.
I'm with Irdan, if the football is still this bad by christmas, then depending on our league position I may well be asking serious questions. I'm still excited about who we may bring in this summer though, as part of a thorough redevelopment of our attacking options. It really wouldn't surprise me if Snodgrass is the only surviving member of our current front 4 to still be first choice next season.
Agree with this, except for the bit about being confident re. staying up. My main feeling at the moment is just utter disappointment. When we hired Hughton I was very happy because I honestly felt we had got the best appointment realistically available to a team of our size. But I have seen him throw away virtual safety through sheer negativity, squeeze every bit of joy and creativity and confidence out of our players, turn us into the most boring team in the league and perhaps even worse than McLeish's Villa last season, freeze out good players like Fox because he seems to distrust skill and invention, give Becchio all of three minutes to prove himself, make no changes at all within a game even when it is crying out for them, and refuse completely to learn from his mistakes. The only positive quality I can see now is that he is a good judge of a player if his signings are anything to go by. Other than that I simply cannot understand how he did so well at Newcastle and Birmingham. So I agree if we stay up he has probably earned the right to take us until at least Christmas next season. But I am not at all optimistic about the future since I think he is either unable or unwilling to change his behaviour to correct his blatant weaknesses.
Keep him till the end of the season then get rid of him, not only is his football boring but his personality also induces sleep. There's nothing special about him to be bothered about losing. The squad is about to be revamped by the looks of things, lets entrust it with someone that warrants faith and faith in his own players.
If we go down we will inevitably bounce back at some point, so to that end I have not lost faith in Norwich City. However any enthusiasm and excitement I felt during September - December last year has been eroded to the point where watching the games is a chore.
I remember posting a thread about the media on Sunday supplement discussing whether we could maintain a push for Europe during our ten game unbeaten run. Seems a million years ago right now.
CH has a plan, which is to require us to beat Man city on the last game of the season by three clear goals to stay up; he'll unleash the attacking might that he has been working on the training ground all season, ready to challenge for a champions league place next season. Oh what is the date today?????
I know exactly what you mean. I watch the game if I can out of a sense of loyalty or some crazy dream that it might be different this week, but I get a sinking feeling in my heart just before the kick off. I want the relief of survival, but I have almost no hope or expectation that we will survive. It's not just on the pitch where all the joy has gone. 'A chore.' A perfect description.
Call me mental but I still have faith in us picking up another 8 points (3 vs Reading and Villa, 1 vs Swansea and Brom). I think faith in the Manager will either rise or dwindle based upon who he signs in the summer. If he signs a couple of quality attacking players like Van Ginkel for example (along with the DM, CB and LB we need) to play along side RVW then it will show the intent to change the style of.play. If we stick with what we have and provide no support for RVW and no decent back up, we will all staart losing complete faith. Hopefully it wont.come to that as it will be too late then! The signing of RVW shows good intent though!
You will stay up, there is no doubt about that in my mind whatsoever! What I would be worried about is that what your getting now on the pitch is Hughton's style of play and that isn't going to change next season or the one after. It's like when we had Roy Keane in charge, he could have been given millions to spend on the team (in fact he was), but we still got the dire anti-football that his reign will be remembered for...Why? Because that was the way he got his team to play, his "football philosophy" if you like, translated onto the pitch, and he couldn't change that because that is simply how he thought the game should be played. I'd fear that Hughton can't change his "football philosophy" either.
Signing rvw is not a sign of intent, why would it be logically, a better striker is likely to feed on a few scraps better than our current strikers. It can interpreted either way, don't hold onto signing him as an indication that anything tactically will change. My expectation is that he will remain defensively focused with a little more flair, not good enough in my view
For what it's worth, McNally tweeted that there's nothing in the Van Ginkel rumours, but I agree he's the type of player we should be interested in. It does race the question though that if you tweet McNally every name under the sun, there's bound to be a couple he doesn't refute...
I still believe CH is the right person to manage NCFC and have faith we'll stay up mainly thanks to the teams below us also struggling. But I wouldn't want Hughton to go now or at the end of the season. I never had high expectation for this season with a new manager, I always thought we'd be in a relegation scrap so maybe that's why I am not overly disappointed or OTT. Next season I think we'll do a bit better, with a new manager he has to get the team he wants and progress from there, nowadays people expect instant results.
I had had enough of this forum a couple of weeks ago when people were being castigated and verbally insulted for having different views than others but it seems to have calmed down a bit wich is good. In answer to the original question from the OP, yes I have lost a quite a lot of faith in CH and we are now staring to pay the price for not having more endeavour when we really should have gone all out to win games rather than gong out just not to lose. I do not get to go to that many games these days due to young family and work commitments but I did go to the Newcastle and Fulham games this season at home and they quite possibly were the worst games of football I have ever seen. The onus is on us as the home team to attack and try to get a result and quite simply those 2 games were a complete embarrassment. If we go one down it is hardly worth watching the game anymore as I know that we have virtually no chance of winning or fighting back, partly due to the pointless substitutions that CH makes with hardly no time left to make and impact. If we do go down it will be almost entirely CH's fault for not showing enough ambition and guts to try and win games when we had good opportunities to do so against lower league teams. I fear that we are simply sleepwalking to relegation without a fight. Let me ask you this question. Being in the position we are in with the form we have and looking at Villa who would you most rather like to have in charge of us right now in the relegation fight? I really don't think CH has what it takes to get us out of the mire if we get sucked in. We will just quietly go down, probably with a boring 1 nil defeat to Villa. Or go into the last game needing to draw or beat Man City.
I have total faith in Hughton still and fully believe he is the man to lead us further up the table next year. He'll be budgeted with more money than any previous manager and will therefore have a lot more freedom to build his own team (RVW is only the start). My only worry is our current inability to score or win games.
We will stay up by beating Arsenal and Manchester City...only kidding. The four homes and Stoke away can yield at least six points. I don't care if we get the points by own goals, off back-sides, deflections or off a beach ball. Hopefully Ruddy will start soon and help steady the nerves. As for Chris Hughton he's the opposite of Paul Lambert. I've read the opinions of many posters but it's best to judge him at the end of the season.
