Not tempting providence, but we are going up this year. i wonder if we could predict which game clinches it. It could be just five games away. Could it be Minxy's Peterborough, Malky's previous Watford, Dave Jones Wednesday, Barnsley (we had real buutter), or Peter Whittingham's old team Nottingham Forest? Middlesbrough away Derby County home Leicester City home Sheffield Wednesday away Peterborough away Blackburn Rovers home Watford away Barnsley home Nottingham Forest home Charlton Athletic home Burnley away Bolton Wanderers home Hull City away
I think we will clinch it against Barnsley but it would be nice if we could also do it against the Twigs.
The last time that Cardiff City hit the first division was Swanson 1959/60. I was reading today that Bill Shankley played for us as a guest, and we were well clear of Liverpool in third place. Goal averages were in, not goal difference. Omen...Bristol City relegated that season, let me check where they are this...oh! 1. Aston Villa (P) 42 25 9 8 2.069 59 2 Cardiff (P) 42 23 12 7 1.451 58 3 Liverpool 42 20 10 12 1.363 50 4 Sheff United 42 19 12 11 1.333 50 5 Middlesbro 42 19 10 13 1.406 48 6 Huddersfield 42 19 9 14 1.403 47 7 Charlton 42 17 13 12 1.034 47 8 Rotherham. 42 17 13 12 1.016 47 9 Bristol Rov 42 18 11 13 0.923 47 10 Leyton O 42 15 14 13 1.245 44 11 Ipswich 42 19 6 17 1.147 44 12 Swansea 42 15 10 17 0.976 40 13 Lincoln 42 16 7 19 0.961 39 14 Brighton 42 13 12 17 0.881 38 15 Scunthorpe 42 13 10 19 0.802 36 16 Sunderland 42 12 12 18 0.800 36 17 Stoke 42 14 7 21 0.795 35 18 Derby 42 14 7 21 0.792 35 19 Plymouth 42 13 9 20 0.685 35 20 Portsmouth 42 10 12 20 0.766 32 21 Hull (R) 42 10 10 22 0.631 30 22 Bristol City (R) 42 11 5 26 0.618 27 Swansea Town were looking on in envy at their giant neighbours success....probably just as they are doing now!
I went Forest too... be nice to do it at home with a few games to go... can relax and enjoy the end of season without the last 10 min nerves like yesterday. Still keeping feet firmly grounded though. Could yet all go tits up
I've gone for Charlton. Don't think I could stand it going any later than that. Wouldn't be good for the health.
If we maintain an 11 point gap (with our game in hand) then it'll be the Charlton game. If any of the 2 chasing slip up then probably Forest. For me though the key game will obviously be the Watford one. That could well be the game that decides it.
you wont last 5 minutes, one season wonders and certain whipping boys. you have to have money in the premiership and not £100 million debt going into it....you dont have many if any players for a start who are good enough and it will cost millions to get any and the league wont let you buy any if you are in that much debt next season.....tall order and could well ruin the red birds if you do come up.....
Nice to see so many interested in voting, who said Hull? Just imagine that? We could try to get the scorer of the goal that takes us up sometime. Imagine McNaughton getting it, what price that? 100/1
We'll be presented with the League Trophy at the Forest game on 13th April, either before, if we have the points, or at the end of the game when we've beaten them. It's my lucky number 13!!!
I think Charlton will be the day the mathmatics say we're going up. For that to be the case it'll be basically certain for the couple of games before that. Dai, the same was said about you and Norwich. QPR had the millions to spend, so your theory is flawed to say the least. If you haven't realised the gap between the 2 leagues is as small as it's ever been you really are as thick as your posts make you sound. We haven't got a chance of promotion this season anyway because of the PL quality that came down. Just remind me when Wolves, Bolton and Blackburn are planning their promotion parties.........
Well said that man, the quality in the EWPL isnt that great at the moment otherwise you wouldnt see such tiddlers such as Swansea or WBA punching above their weight.
Dai! Maybe to a simpleton like you, all debt is the same. However, director's loans have a slightly different connotation......VT is owed a lot of money and will lose it should the club go tits up. But that will also be the same for a previous owner's debt, whcih is currently subject to (re)negotiation. VT will not convert his debt to equity and improve that owner's postiion. However, he is on record as saying that a debt/equity swap will take place. Also, I recall that a quite a bit of that debt was to increase the ground size, which will help significantly with wiping out operating losses. Whenn that takes place, you will see CCFC with debts still (all clubs have them)....but CCFC have assets to balance them. You might notice that some clubs do own their grounds and not play on a council pitch. Of course, there is another way of clearing the debts......Swansea have done it twice.....and at least once they had bought their way to the First division with it. So go back in your mortgaged caravan and think on that.