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Where do we go from here? whats to be done?

Discussion in 'Leicester City' started by I used to be john fallen, Apr 15, 2012.

  1. I used to be john fallen

    I used to be john fallen Active Member

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    SO far the major decsions the owners have made have proved to be unmitigated failures, but its their money and their choices . I would hazard a guess that if all the money had not been spent we would be within say three points of where we are now. Pearson's remit when he returned was to surely at least reach the playoffs ,he has failed as well. So what next? nigel has definately put his methods into action, fallen out with players, brought his men in and the pattern has not changed, the ill disipline ,bad attitude, bad defending etc,ect.. has continued. With the tremendous resources at his disposal compared with the vast majority in this league thats disappionting. How many of his fellow managers in this league would of achieved more ? or less? The main word and reason for why we are where we are, is STRATEGY! For top business people the owners have never really had a coherent strategy, other than throw money at it and rely on people "in the game"...They cleary have very little patience and Im sure are wondering WTF...This was illistrated by the sacking of sven and then trawling around for a new manager when no replacement had been lined up. Was nigel REALLY their first chioce or the least worse option available ? In the next few weeks some hard thinking needs to be done or history will yet again repeat itself. So this summer no trips abroad or PR tours...get down the training ground get fully fit and get a system that works or it could get very ugly very soon..ITS TIME TO EARN THE BIG MONEY LADS...the pissing about is over please!
     
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  2. leicester_ed

    leicester_ed Well-Known Member

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    Pearson is terrific. Anyone who thinks of changing him is an idiot. You cannot judge on this season- he hasnt changed anything. This is the season of Nigel coming up- with his type of players.
     
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  3. I used to be john fallen

    I used to be john fallen Active Member

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    Regarding pearson, Im an agnostic, I never call for a managers head, "he hasn't changed anything" so whats he been doing? is that good or an indictment?
    describing pearson a "terrific" fly's in the face of the facts so far..im glad you have blind faith, I wish I did..Im yet to be convinced either way..
     
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  4. ristac

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    He has had a transfer window has he not and this taken from Wiki: he was finally re-appointed as manager on 15 November 2011 with Leicester sitting 12th in the Championship. Pearson started well, taking 7 points from his first 3 games which took Leicester into the top 6 for the first time since he had been at the club, over 18 months previously, before Leicester faced the Hull City side Pearson had left just 18 days earlier. Leicester lost the game 2–1 thanks to a late Robert Koren strike, as Pearson was greeted with chants of "Judas" from the Hull fans. That result also signalled a downturn in form, beginning a run which saw Leicester fail to win for 5 consecutive games.
     
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  5. sandiacre_fox

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    It will be very interesting to see what happens during the summer, since NP came back, not alot seems to have changed, were still getting p**s poor performances, and to say the least, lacklustre ones at that. The constant changing of managers does no club any good, but is NP the man for the job, mmm, well only time will tell, and that also depends on the patience of our owners.
    All i know is, its been a very disappointing season, one which has cost most of us, hundreds and hundreds of pounds, for very little in the way of return, while our overpaid pampered pussies, with a few exceptions, seem not to give a monkeys about anything other than collecting their wages. Its been infuriating, annoying,irritating, frustrating, and down right embarrassing, for the most part. Roll on summer, i for one can't wait to recover from this season, which i have well and truly had enough of<doh>
     
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  6. Happy_Fox - Sponsored by Thai's R Us

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    An O'Neil type manager could walk in and motivate the whole squad instantly like he has done at Sunderland. Unfortunatley there are not too many O'Neil types around. NP is the polar opposite of that and seems to be very particular about who he is (and isn't) prepared to work with.

    Is that poor man management or a man with a clear vision? Personally, I don't think we'll know the answer to that until Xmas time.
     
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  7. Danger Fox

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    In fairness O'Neil has quite a reputation for falling out with players as well - Maybe Pearson has the same qualities as O'Neil and is keeping them under a bushel <whistle>
     
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  8. THE FOXES 1884

    THE FOXES 1884 Well-Known Member

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    I see FA reason to sack yet another manager. Who has NP brought in ? How many players in the squad does he really rate & wants to keep ?
    Who much time has he had to improve the squad ?

    I´ve said it before, He´s not had the time & the transfer windows to sort the squad out like he would want. Think about it. He came in with a squad that was so unbalanced, that alone should of never been aloud to happen. He found out that a few of the players where just not right for him or for LCFC. He found out that there was alot of players with egoes & he had to work with what he had. He did have a winter window but a new manager can´t do alot in the time that is given.

    He´s got Drinkwater & Marshal in who are showing their worth, weeding out some dead wood bit by bit so I´m guessing he´ll beable to sort this mess out in the summer, this mess that is not of his making. He knows who will be leaving & who he wants in & if he´s given the money he will sort it. If not the I would say time for a change, but NP needs until xmas to show he´s made things better.

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  9. I used to be john fallen

    I used to be john fallen Active Member

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    Steve bruce said on sky managing big player ego's is the most difficult part of the job now.. this is why I have a very low tolerance of modern players ,if they are not up to it, get rid...I have very little sympathy for them now, unlike years ago...the attitude of the modern pro has damaged the sport and my pleasure of it...sure there are some "proper blokes" but they are getting less and less...not sure I would want to bother as a manager...reading peoples character is an art martin has, and getting the best out of certain players...I have my doubts that nigel has enough of that ability ...but very few seem to these days.... football will probably eat itself...
     
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  10. The_Mountain_Fox

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    I'm reserving judgement whilst I wait and see what happens in the summer, I'm pretty confident we have the right management team but if he continues to play the likes of King, Gally and Wellens next season then I'll rapidly lose faith. I also don't want us wasting millions on tat, I hope we only spend to our means and on confident, tried and tested players.
     
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    Where's that twat 'Sven's Mighty Love Sword Gone' ? need him to talk me through your team's performances against the Lions this season!
     
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  12. Lesta Gangsta

    Lesta Gangsta Well-Known Member

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    No offence but we have been awful against the **** teams all season. Forest? Two draws. Bristol City? Two defeats. Donny? One defeat, one win. Barnsley? One defeat, one draw. Pompey? Two draws. Peterborough? One defeat, one draw. Need I go on?
     
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  13. Greatness_Since_1884

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    Actually, both the players Nigel has 'fallen out' with were signed by another manager and if you look at NP signings, he does seem to sign players with the right attitude. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Steve Walsh is a big part of what NP does and he scouts a player very well.

    And to the Leeds fan, I don't think Nigel has had a proper transfer window yet. Yes he's had the January one but that is for supplementing not building and if we give him a summer to build his team, I back him to succeed.

    We're inconsistent on the field and that can't be helped by the fact we're inconsistent off it as well. The last time we were consistent on the field was the last time we were sorted off it (when NP was last here). Stability breeds success and I can't see why we'd want to start the cycle all over again whilst depriving the manager off the most important period of his job. If he fails after that, then fine. But at least give him a chance.
     
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  14. I used to be john fallen

    I used to be john fallen Active Member

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    well if nigel can only deal with players he has signed then he is in real trouble..
     
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    Well not necceserily players he's signed (remember he's the one that got Beckford scoring) but players who are willing to buy into his demands of extra emphasis on work and team ethic which isn't actually a bad thing - if Matt Mills can't take being dropped for one game then I don't want him in my team.
     
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    <laugh> I'm still here. Ok you beat us twice but your still below us, so we've massively under achieved so where does that leave you <whistle>
     
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    if only we never got rid, just think how good our squad would be now under Nigel...
     
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    He should never have gone in the first place he now needs to re-build in the summer and i just hope he is given time too
     
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  19. Barwellfox

    Barwellfox Well-Known Member

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    To determine whether a manager is capable, then look at his past. Saved Southampton from relegation, got us promoted from Div 1, then into the playoffs the following season and turned Hull around from having overpaid lack lustre prima donnas to a team that the fans are proud of (to an extent anyway).
    Pearson is a dour character and doesnt win everybody over to him (eg Hull) unless he is successful (eg Southampton and our Div 1 campaign).

    Is he a good manager ? - past history says that he is. In this day and age, changing manager is the norm. I wouldnt give him til Christmas, I would give him the whole of next season, cos I dont believe there are better managers out there who are available. Will he upset people - I am sure he will cos of his strength in self belief, but if players cannot take a few home truths then do they have the strength of character to be successful ?
     
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  20. LeicesterWizard

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    <ok> You'd have to imagine that we'd have a good team now, because buying 11 new players and expecting them to fit together is a bit optimistic tbh.

    Hopefully NP can buy a couple of players for key positions over the summer, get rid of the players on too much wages that aren't willing to contribute to the team and have a good pre-season.
     
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