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Oldsparkey said:
I'm not deliberately trying to disagree with you Nin, but we didn't exactly roll over at Leeds - they were far too good for us and we couldn't cope with them. I don't believe anyone "gave up" and rolled over. Such was their superiority, they just played us off the park and we had no answer.

Given that scenario, I'd be surprised if we picked up many more points from any of the upcoming games against the current holders of the top 6 places, but battling performances playing at home against the likes of the Wurzels and Wendies to come should see us through.

Getting the majority of the points available from games with those around us is obviously key, and that's where I think we all agree. Losing to those currently below us is going to impact far more than that roasting we got at Leeds..
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Likewise with your views; yes Leeds were very good but as the home co-comms said we made it too easy for them.

All I was trying to get across is that any point versus the top 4 teams would be a bonus but to get anything needs more tactical nous from the manager and more effort from the players (in the sense of basic football skills like passing and control etc).

Any points gained against these teams would cushion any hiccups against the teams around us.
 
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Back on topic - Riza has been here long enough to make a judgment. He may keep us up; he may not. Whatever happens the board (you know those knowledgeable football experts) will have to make a decision for the future.

It’s a topic that will be hot in months to come; but for me yesterday - yes yes Leeds were impressive partly due to their excellence but also due to our sheer incompetence- Riza was out of his depth. 2 down at half time - there was only one aim and that should have been to stem the inevitable slaughter as Leeds had maimed their prey and were ready for the kill. His tactics were naive. His substitutions were bizarre. His whole demeanour was strange.

In the time he’s been here he hasn’t convinced. From his crass decision to try to defend a lead at Ashton Gate to overseeing the club suffering its biggest defeat for nearly 60 years with the odd purple patch evidences he’s just too unpredictable and inconsistent. 4 wins out of last 18 tells a story.
 
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Back on topic - Riza has been here long enough to make a judgment. He may keep us up; he may not. Whatever happens the board (you know those knowledgeable football experts) will have to make a decision for the future.

It’s a topic that will be hot in months to come; but for me yesterday - yes yes Leeds were impressive partly due to their excellence but also due to our sheer incompetence- Riza was out of his depth. 2 down at half time - there was only one aim and that should have been to stem the inevitable slaughter as Leeds had maimed their prey and were ready for the kill. His tactics were naive. His substitutions were bizarre. His whole demeanour was strange.

In the time he’s been here he hasn’t convinced. From his crass decision to try to defend a lead at Ashton Gate to overseeing the club suffering its biggest defeat for nearly 60 years with the odd purple patch evidences he’s just too unpredictable and inconsistent. 4 wins out of last 18 tells a story.
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I actually agree with that.

Whilst appearing all very nice relationshipwise between him and the players, a football club is no place for a love in.
 
ninian opinion said:
Back on topic - Riza has been here long enough to make a judgment. He may keep us up; he may not. Whatever happens the board (you know those knowledgeable football experts) will have to make a decision for the future.

It’s a topic that will be hot in months to come; but for me yesterday - yes yes Leeds were impressive partly due to their excellence but also due to our sheer incompetence- Riza was out of his depth. 2 down at half time - there was only one aim and that should have been to stem the inevitable slaughter as Leeds had maimed their prey and were ready for the kill. His tactics were naive. His substitutions were bizarre. His whole demeanour was strange.

In the time he’s been here he hasn’t convinced. From his crass decision to try to defend a lead at Ashton Gate to overseeing the club suffering its biggest defeat for nearly 60 years with the odd purple patch evidences he’s just too unpredictable and inconsistent. 4 wins out of last 18 tells a story.
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It keeps coming down to footballing nous at all levels.
Riza's strategy, his style, is probably where we want to be heading. It appears his tactics on a day are flawed, as is his ability to change for the good within a game.
The difference between a coach and a manager?
As has been seen before, coaches step up into the hot seat and struggle.
How often do you see managers and coaches move as a block. Blackwell always followed Colin around, often with Jepson in tow.

The issue is, finding a manager that allows our style to develop rather than lurching in a different direction.
Or finding a DoF to hold Riza's hand as he grows into the role.

Once again it comes back to the footballing experience of the board.
 
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ccfcremotesupport said:
It keeps coming down to footballing nous at all levels.
Riza's strategy, his style, is probably where we want to be heading. It appears his tactics on a day are flawed, as is his ability to change for the good within a game.
The difference between a coach and a manager?
As has been seen before, coaches step up into the hot seat and struggle.
How often do you see managers and coaches move as a block. Blackwell always followed Colin around, often with Jepson in tow.

The issue is, finding a manager that allows our style to develop rather than lurching in a different direction.
Or finding a DoF to hold Riza's hand as he grows into the role.

Once again it comes back to the footballing experience of the board.
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If I’m not mistaken weren’t Rowett & Mowbray free when Riza was given the full time job?
 
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