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When I was at Everton!!!

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  1. calmcumbrian

    calmcumbrian Well-Known Member

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    I am now getting totally peeved by our current manager starting off nearly all interviews with this phrase! He is now our club's manager and his past clubs should be history.He very conveniently doesn't mention his failures at his last two clubs,Man Utd and Real Sociadad.Get real,David Moyes and start managing our great club...stop talking about Everton and relegation,and get on with the job of improving our club!!
     
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    Well said and right on the mark!
     
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    Yes I'm tired of hearing about his time at Everton already and he's only been here five minutes. I get the impression that he thinks it doesn't really matters what he says to the press and it's true to an extent when you're winning but when you're not it gets scrutinised.

    Pick your words more carefully David and you'll generate a better atmosphere. **** knows why I'm talking to him on here I might as well talk to myself. Time for bed Nacho? Yes I think so mate.
     
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    I remember when I was a tea boy at Everton, Christ on mighty Moyes, you are manager of a great football club now ( I have been drinkinking lads, me not Moyes hehe) if we lose to QPR I want Mohrino in on thurs morning at 9 am pronto, and he can bring Felini, Rashford, and the hair transplant bloke with him and that will be ok and he will guide us to the champions league nee bother !
     
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    Yeah, he even looked upset the other day when he said his Everton team was only one striker away from challenging for the title. No need to say it, but I think he's quite bitter that they are spending money at that club, now.

    He also talked about replicating what he done at Everton, for Sunderland. That's the benchmark apparently.

    I'm not impressed with him. I'm not impressed with his signings, apart from Manquillo and NDong. I'm not impressed with his negativity, and his 'we are in a relegation battle' speech. Also the speech he gave about not taking the job last season because he thought it was impossible to keep us up <doh>

    I haven't a clue what his tactics are, and his team selections are very questionable. He had 7 weeks of the transfer window when he came in, he couldn't bring in a striker. Lets remember he spent 24m on NDong and Djib. Allardyce spent 15m on Kirchhoff, Khazri and Kone.

    He needs to stop being so ****ing negative. Allardyce leaving has well and truly ****ed us. I can't say with any guarantee, but I reckon, if he had stayed then Kaboul would still be here, and Khazri would be a totally different player. He would have also brought in another striker, which he had targeted straightaway.
     
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  6. marcusblackcat

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    Up to the conference pre Everton I was very impressed with everything Moyes had said. The kone situation, every pre match. But pre Everton, whilst he just answered the questions given to him, it should've been "yeah Everton was great but I'm here to talk about Sunderland" to the first one and then put it to bed.

    Djilobodji looked fine until Everton. Tbh looked OK on Sunday, still won't blame him fir the goal as it was unlucky bounce of the ball IMO.

    Ndong looked excellent so, if that level remains, then he's a 14m player (and then some) by today's standards. Khazri and Kone would be £30m outlay now if we were buying them with the new money. Kirchhoff would never go for less than £1m. Hus fitness was an issue and, if he can sort that, he's a £20m+ midfielder who wouldn't look out of place at Arsenal!
     
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    NDong looked brilliant, if he can replicate that form for most of his games, we have got a real player there.

    I thought Djib was horrendous, if I'm being honest, mate. He doesn't anticipate the ball coming to him and seems to lack concentration. He got away with it in the first half when he nearly put the ball into his own net, and for the Spurs goal he should have put his body over the ball to play it into the ground so he could hoof it clear. His body positioning was all wrong though and the ball bounced off his chest and away from him. A pro footballer should be clearing them all day. After that goal he just fell apart, he made really clumsy passes and his positional play was really bad.

    I didn't think Pickfords distribution was very bad either. He was the only player on the pitch to put Defoe through on goal, during the game and that was in the first half. I thought he done well in the second half, when leaving his box and bringing the ball down the left side of the pitch before finding one of our players. Nobody gives him an option, and it's not really his fault that we are playing a tiny forward. His kicks were always going in the area Defoe was, but Defoe is never going to win many headers when the balls are coming down from the gods. He barely challenges for them.

    Kirchhoff is just a legend, mate. Amazing player, we are so lucky to have him.
     
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  8. Hefty fullback

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    And potentially 16m on Manquillo.
     
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    I to knew exactly what he should have done after it happened
     
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    That's in Euro's, but still just under 14 million pound.

    Seems a lot for him.
     
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    To be honest, I wondered if he'd be a broken man after his experiences in Manchester and San Sebastian and I'm beginning to think I may have been right. I can't remember what his interviews were like when he was at other clubs but some of the things he's said while he's been with us have been odd and the PVA situation is very strange, no matter what your opinion of the reasons behind it.
    At the end of last season, we should have been in a position to push on and to build the improvements to the squad that Allardyce had made. That wasn't reliant on Sam being our manager; it could have happened anyway. Whether that lack of progress can be laid squarely at Moyes' door is open to debate (it could have been dictated at boardroom level) but the summer recruitment does appear to have lacked proper strategy.
    Having said that, there hasn't been one game, of those that I've seen, that I have thought we've been terrible in. We've been undone by individual mistakes and they could and should be eradicated through relevant coaching.
    I'm holding judgment on Moyes at the minute but I do think its time for him to step his game up. And for him to forget about Everton.
     
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    TOTALLY THIS!!!!!

    Bart
     
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    I'm not sure he's bought onto managing us by some of his quotes - The relegation when he first came , "it's a hard job here but other managers have had it hard that's why there's been so many "- ready made excuse for failure to me. Not a managerial positive statememt of intent for me as I did'nt hear him say but I'm here to stay.
    I've heard him say he needs time and backing but not with commitment or intent - he's lucky to be here - I'm just not sure and results and(lack of) transfer activity are not helping .
    KTF
     
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    Well said
    Now that is a proper Monty post. :emoticon-0104-surpr
     
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    And Man United and Sociedad too..

    Cast your minds back to when Roy Keane got us promoted, he did a meet the fans session in the club shop iirc and some guy handed him a Autobiography book from his Man U days, he told the guy he was here to talk about Sunderland only and that was the past and refused to sign the book..

    It's easy to fix broken but you need to look forward and not back, take experience from it, make yourself better and move on..<ok>
     
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    To be honest didn't like Moyes from first interveiw and seen nowt yet to change my mind total boring twat.
     
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  17. calmcumbrian

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    Delectable Joe hits the nail on the head!
     
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  18. Reggie the Cheddar

    Reggie the Cheddar Well-Known Member

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    Never wanted Moyes, was very optimistic when we got him though. Painfully realising now I may have been right in the first place. To me the squad don't look Interested and like him or not that could never be said of Sam's team. Could it be he's lost the dressing room already in true PDC style? One things for certain right now I'd be less bothered about the players asking for Moyes head than I was about Di Canio
     
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    Wow - not exactly sure how you come to that conclusion. He's signed a very good looking (football wise - not my type) central midfielder. Got Kone tied to a long term deal which will see the club make a hefty profit at seasons end (I reckon) and I've seen zero evidence of having lost the dressing room.
     
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  20. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    Well I was never convinced about Moyes but come on guys give him a chance.

    He's been here less than three months and has a lot to put up with. It was Kaboul who upset the back four, not Moyes, we have to give the new,lads time to settle, we've only had five league games.

    Its not Moyes fault he's lost his first choice keeper, and yes young Pickford is just as good but he wasnt the managers first choice purely down to his lack of experience.

    The midfield has been decimated pre season with injuries to Catts, Kirchhoff & Larsson all good players with two of them having vast premiership experience, not the managers fault.
    The M'Vila situation hasn't helped but is that down to Moyes, I think not. He's signed young N'Dong who looks a great prospect already, and brought in an experienced head in Pinnere for little outlay.

    Its up front where he has let himself down in not getting another striker onboard but we dont know how hard the club tried to redress that issue, and now were having to rely on an out of contract striker who currently isn't fit.

    So overall whilst I still think he is poor in front of the media, being a dour Scot doesn't help, even Alex Ferguson was a boring twat to listen too I will judge what happens on the pitch and as long as we are not cut adrift by Christmas then I will be happy with the first half of what has been a difficult season for a variety of reasons that very few you can lay the blame for at David Moyes door IMO.
     
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