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What's Mourinho on about

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  1. Matth_2014

    Matth_2014 Well-Known Member

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    He's was having a rant about a ''campaign'' against Chelsea after their game yesterday.
     
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  2. Bodinki

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    Ok I will explain the reason behind his rant.

    A few of our players have been caught diving recently, particularly the Hull and Stoke games.
    Mourinho then saw Fabregas denied a penalty against Southampton (which WAS a penalty, but call it karmic justice, I wont argue).
    Mourinho now fears that our players will receive unfair bookings for diving or be denied penalties becuase of the "reputation" our team is getting, so he has attempted to reverse psych referees by claiming we are being campaigned against so that referess will look not to vindicate his statement and will award us penalties when our players go down. (Whether deserved or not).

    Its just a mind game to give us an advantage, typical Mourinho tactic, your ex-manager was the best in the world at it, Would have thought it would have been quite obvious what he was doing.
     
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  3. Stan

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    Mourinho shouldn't have instructed his players to dive in the first place. Suggests he's feeling the pressure.
     
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  4. Stan

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    By the way, I don't think he'll get much sympathy!
     
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  5. Bodinki

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    Would doubt he instructed players to dive to be honest.
    Its more one of those unspoken things. Managers would probably never instruct a player to dive, but wouldn't necessarily mind if one of their players dive and a pen is awarded.
    Its the "all about the winning" mentality.
     
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    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    Maureen is doing one thing and one thing only, removing pressure from the team, actually two, he likes to moan as a rule :D. It's an old Fergie trick that does work, maybe his players even believe they can only not win if they get cheated. :D

    Nothing to see here.

    Chelsea had one shot on goal v Southampton, not good enough, and Jose is not going to talk about that. He knows he is talking bollocks. Isn't Jose the one that accused a ref of colluding with the opposing team in the CL? Jose forgets his own campaigns it seems
     
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  7. Bodinki

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    As to why the media wont call him out on it......the reason for that is two fold

    1) They are stupid
    2) They love it when he writes their headlines for them because.....See No. 1
     
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    For sure, they like what he gives them over boring football talk that they don't even understand.

    Any hack will say it, would they rather write about the best performance a player has ever put in, or a player biting someone, they'll take the bite scenario every day of the week <laugh> This says as much about the consumers of such "journalism"
     
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  9. Stan

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    So many dives by different players in one game suggests that they were following orders from above.
     
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    I honestly couldnt give a ****. On the whole, Bodanki's post pretty much hits the nail on the head including the reference to Fergie.

    The only thing that disappoints is to see the Chelsea players diving. In all honesty they are a quality side playing some powerful attacking football. It would be good for any side to dominate a league to the title in that style. The diving just taints that and only reinforces the perception of anti-football and lack of sportsmanship Mourinho holds. What's worse is it's all unnecessary.
     
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  11. Bodinki

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    Can't really argue with that.
    Costa's booking against Hull wasn't a dive, he didn't even appeal and only went down on a knee.
    Neither was Fabregas' against Southampton...
    However, cannot argue about Cahill and Willian....blatant dives.
    Pointless really as we gained nothing from it other than Yellow cards, though I am glad its being cracked down on.
     
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    I posted this on the rival board when you played West Ham last week...

    Totally battered West Ham. The diving really isn't needed, makes you wonder why do it? Is it pressure??? Just don't get it. Btw agree, Fabregas wasn't a dive but he suffered as a result of the rep.
     
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  13. King Shergar

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    How about Ivanovic the other day, are we conveniently ignoring that one?

    Fergie would sometimes use similar tactics to Mourinho, but never as hypocritical as Mourinho. Fergie would openly criticise his own players for diving sometimes, ask Ashley Young. He also wouldn't come out with hypocritical statements like moaning about not getting a penalty after his team had been diving and cheating for many games that season. He also would never accuse West Ham of playing 19th century football, and them go to Anfield a month later and play a 631 formation with all of his own players camped in there own half.

    Fergie used to enjoy a rant and a moan to the press, the same as 90% of others do. But Mourinho's comments are often hypocritical, and often make him look very stupid :biggrin:
     
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    Life as a footy fan.

    If your manager or player acts like a twat it's ok, if an opposition manager or player does the same they are idiots.
     
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    Really?
    I am sure that more than once, probably more than a dozen times even, SAF moaned about not enough injury time (ie Fergie time) being awarded in games when they were searching for a winner or equaliser, when in other games his team were awarded ridiculous amounts of time to grab another goal when there should have been 3/4 minutes of injury time and they were awarded 6.
    Mourinho has also slammed his players for diving, like a few months back when Oscar dived
    Mourinho said: ‘It was a good decision by Atkinson. Oscar deserved the card
     
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    Moving this bullshit on a bit...


    "There is a campaign against Chelsea. I don't know why there is this campaign and I do not care."

    Surely calling it a campaign against Chelsea is a personal attack on the character of Anthony Taylor and all referees?

    Now, although I agree it wouldn't have surprised me for Fergie to do the same, we would also have seen a media and ABU onslaught of him facing some sort of disciplinary by the FA? Remember the Alan Wiley incident? One where Fergie was eventually proved right about Wiley as he went on to retire at the end of the season. The witch hunt against Fergie then was ridiculous. In fact, forget Fergie, if that had been Neil Warnock making that remark after a match, he'd also be called in to explain his comments and probably face a disciplinary.
     
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  17. King Shergar

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    So we're going down the mythical Fergie time route. So your questioning the integrity of all referees by claiming they gave us more time to score a winner.

    Do you actually have any factual evidence to prove that claim, or is it just the usual ABU, sore loser, and kicking your toys out because Fergie and United won more than you guys:biggrin:
     
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  18. UnitedinRed

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    This is one of the many ABU myths that have long been disproved. Along with getting more penalties, diving more, spending more, getting more decisions and the rest.

    In fact, based on actual evidence, not one of them stands up. Which we all knew. Fun though when rivals bring it up.
     
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    I remember the one where we were playing Chelsea and given 2mins added time. Tevez scored on 2mins and 30 secs. Skysports pundits started spouting Fergie time and Avram Grant must have caught wind of this bcos he started moaning about it in his post-match interview. Until someone pointed out that added time is the MINIMUM time added on and takes into account throw ins etc during that period. Funny as fck as everyone went silent.
     
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    No not really, Fergie was having a go at Wiley because United didn't win. He blamed Wiley when it was Fergie and the team's fault, it was nothing to do with Wiley's fitness. Fergie attacked a referee personally because he lost the rag because he dropped points.

    Wiley retiring doesn't confirm anything as he'd most likely decided at the start of that season that it would be his last. Common sense really.
     
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