1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

What were the wires for?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Forza Bianchi, May 6, 2011.

  1. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    5,132
    Likes Received:
    26
    #1
  2. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    9,988
    Likes Received:
    306
    Sensor. I don't know what kind of device you could conceal within the wing that could generate enough load (well over 100kgs) to bend the wing.
     
    #2
  3. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2011
    Messages:
    5,277
    Likes Received:
    660
    Very interesting Jose.

    Red Bull's mechanic appears unconcerned at the world's media seeing these wires for the first time. Was this carelessness, forgetfulness or not-botheredness?

    A wire mechanism would certainly not compromise load testing, and whilst I'm no engineer, it does not take a genius to imagine how altering the tension of a wire might distort the structure encasing it.

    No doubt we will hear more of this…
     
    #3
  4. Di Resta is faster than u

    Di Resta is faster than u Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2011
    Messages:
    1,477
    Likes Received:
    14
    Could it be mere telemetry?
     
    #4
  5. Delete Me

    Delete Me Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    7,361
    Likes Received:
    27
    For the fondu set after the win?
     
    #5
  6. Prime Minister Cameron

    Prime Minister Cameron New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2011
    Messages:
    1,360
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hmmmmm...

    Good point Jose.....

    I think it may be just a wire that maybe just adds a bit more weight to the wing or something to pass the load test maybe... But i dont think thats it because surely you would shift the weight somewhere else and not to the front wing....

    Anyway what does the wire weigh... only probably 5-10 grams... thats nothing...
     
    #6

  7. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    1,014
    Im drunk here but im going to put it out there. Could be that the wing's default shape from manufacture is in the flexed down position and the car doesnt need to produce a load to flex it downward but needs to exert a pulling force on the cables to straighten it.

    Probably wake up and realise the idiocy of my post but I put my theory out there into the lions den for now.
     
    #7
  8. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    1,014
    <ale>
    please log in to view this image
    blehhhhhhhhh <monster>
     
    #8
  9. Bergkamp a Dutch master

    Bergkamp a Dutch master New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,060
    Likes Received:
    11
    It's an aerial for local Turkish radio. Seb's into alternative music.
     
    #9
  10. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    25,554
    Likes Received:
    20,233
    In the first picture it looks like Ross Kemp, is he the stress test administrator? Does he test it the wings flexibility using ultimate force?
     
    #10
  11. Masanari

    Masanari Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2011
    Messages:
    4,347
    Likes Received:
    12
    According to Scarbs they are probably just for pressure sensors.
     
    #11
  12. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2011
    Messages:
    4,414
    Likes Received:
    8
    Well ferreted out. Cheers.
     
    #12
  13. ErnieBecclestone

    ErnieBecclestone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2011
    Messages:
    1,752
    Likes Received:
    107
    Yea, they are feedback conductors for the data logger system and are connected to force gauges and measure any change in weight, pressure, distortion, movement etc, these things can actually be set into the surface of the wing itself, effectively same type of thing as used in a bathroom scale.
     
    #13
  14. CookinFlatSix

    CookinFlatSix Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    125
    Likes Received:
    0
    Interesting theory Jacky

    However to manually release the tension or to retract the wire would be prohibited by the regulations

    Maybe though it's something similar but with temperature increase causing the material to assume it's normal flexed shape

    So when cold it's shape is flat, and when temperature increases a little it flexes, this old allow it to pass the FIA tests but would then cause the flex without manual intervention once the exhausts are running perhaps
     
    #14
  15. CookinFlatSix

    CookinFlatSix Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    125
    Likes Received:
    0
    Maybe a small percentage of exhaust is routed towards the wing

    I'm sure the other engineers have though of all this though
     
    #15
  16. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2011
    Messages:
    5,277
    Likes Received:
    660
    Mr Tambourine man and Ernie are on the money. I was being a bit naughty&#8230;
     
    #16
  17. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    1,014
    Aye, I just had a thought that maybe it was being looked at in the wrong angle and they were not bending an already straight wing but straightening an already bent one.
    Still, the explaination as to what the wires are for has left the theory dead in the water anyhow
     
    #17

Share This Page