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What teams to expect?

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  1. dazzar86

    dazzar86 Well-Known Member

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    While we're waiting to see who will come in as manager, wondered if we could work out what sort of a team we'll have dependent on which manager comes in, what formation they'll play and what type of players they'd be likely to bring in, based on their previous/current sides.

    for example:

    Phil Brown - 442, likely to bring in old experienced heads who want to prove they've still got it, so imagine he'd go for the likes of Jussi Jaaskelainen and Ricardo Gardner. Does Rory Delap still get much game-time at Stoke? I think he'd be a Brown type signing. Would also expect an experienced, no-nonsense centre-half to sit alongside Chester.
     
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  2. John. Walkington.

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    ......and they'd all be sat on the naughty step.
     
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  3. dazzar86

    dazzar86 Well-Known Member

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    Caleb Folan on a free, maybe he'd bring him back as super sub again?


    Lee Clark tends to go with good young players with a few experienced players slotted into key positions.
     
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    Lee Clark likes Kilbane in his midfield!
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    I don't know why Birmingham signed Folan, not only did he never play for them, he didn't even make the bench for a single game.

    Maybe they just signed him because the mugs in the canteen are on a high shelf?
     
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    He was signed to aid the centre half's training and build their confidence
     
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  7. andy payton's mullet

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    Or to give their YTS physio plenty of practice
     
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    If it is Lee Clark, and the Allams do have money available for squad strengthening (I'll expect decent money for transfers now, after all it WAS available in January, allegedly, they'll look stupid now if money is not available this summer)

    Which of the players he's worked with at Hudds would be targeted? I'd like Jordan Rhodes, we could bag him for about £4m (according to a couple of ST Holders at the Galpharm)
     
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    Don't think there was much of a transfer kitty in January but there may have been monies available to bring a decent striker in on loan
     
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  10. RicardoHCAFC

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    Really? How often in his last 50 games with us did he actually play 1 striker never mind 2? (***an and Garcia are no more strikers than Dawson is)
     
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    That was through desperation though. I think he'd use his first stint with us as a blueprint to building a side capable of promotion.

    Nigel Worthington - most recently Northern Ireland boss, so may help keeping Corry Evans. Sammy Cligan (on a free) has been a regular in his squad, so has Grant McCann, who is on P'boro's transfer list.

    Greg Abbott would maybe bring in Francois Zoko on a free?

    Looking at Blackwell's last stint as a manager, he had Greg Halford in his side, who is available on the cheap from Pompey.
     
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    It was through naughty stepping our strikers onto the bench all the bloody time.

    I was slightly exaggerating it though, because I know in his last 30 games he played 442/433 in about half, and 45Fagan/Garcia or 460 in the other half. And the reason I know that is because I did a breakdown of it at the time, and had we gone with the 442 every week instead of alternating the points total we should have ended up with would have been around 50. There was no distinction in the quality of the opposition to favour 442 either, we played and beat the likes of Man City with it, and played the 451/460 and ****ed it up against the likes of Portsmouth.
     
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    how can you possibly calculate the points total based on formations! it's like saying if Chelsea played with 10 men every week they'd win the league cos Torres would take the one chance they got.. there are far more elements involved Ricardo and you know it.
     
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  14. RicardoHCAFC

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    It's not like that at all, I'm comparing the results and performances from a sample of games equal to more than 3/4 of the season (it was PL so 38 games not 46 remember), you're using one game. The bigger the sample the more reliable the analysis.

    So broadly speaking:
    1) You work out the points total for the 15 games using each sytem and multiply them up to the length of a season.
    2) You check that you haven't been using the "best" formation against crap teams and the other one against the top teams as that would obviously skew the results.
    3) You apply your knowledge of the performances in those 30 games to ensure that you don't just have a lucky formation and an unlucky one, so that the discrepancy in results is actually the result of the difference in performances.
     
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