What is this once great England coming too?

X-rated antics on ITV?
Political correctness has reached the daft stage where ITV Sport producers felt it necessary for presenter Craig Doyle to apologise for Wales coach Warren Gatland saying he had given his team a 'rollicking' - or a word to that effect - at half-time in Monday's World Cup victory against Namibia.

An ITV spokesman said: 'It was appropriate action in an early morning


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Ask Big Dave.

 

The word was bollocks Jim, you're not usually shy about saying it on here!

 

I mean speaking it, of course!

 

Northolt Well dear friend, I am one of them OLD farts that call a spade a spade! Just remember I grew up in Balham during the war, remember that? when we all had freedom of speech??? And i mean the last war 1939 to 1946! So no jokes please from the great unwashed!! I do love you all , other old farts over here love the come backs from ones so young? And Swords , only one glass of champs to day. Times are hard over here now as VAT is up to 23% - 24% ! So what about Fulham? last time i saw them we lost 0-1 at home, mind you that was in 1947/8 season, hope you all remember??

 

What the Boer war?

 

That sir is racist.

 

Cerny, you mean he should call it a shovel!!!!!

 

Now I give James more **** than most, but there's nothing racist in what he said
WTF!!

 

"A derogatory term for an African American, more commonly used in the post-Civil War era than today."

 

Cerny, have a look at wikipedia and it will show that the term was introduced into the English language in 1542 and is descibed thus "To "call a spade a spade" is to speak honestly and directly about a topic"

The ethnic slur is described "The phrase predates the use of the word "spade" as an ethnic slur against African-Americans, which was not recorded until 1928; however, in contemporary U.S. society, the idiom is often avoided due to potential confusion with the slur"

I think Jim is referring to the former rather than the later.

 

Cerny...have a day off for ****'s sake. Calling "a spade a spade" is a SAYING. It means straight talking. Only idiotic people who are LOOKING for racism would find that offensive!! It's like saying "accident black spot" or "blackboard".
Call someone a spade and that is definitely racist!!!!!
What he said definitely isn't!!

 

Well Jimbo's just left the site. I hope you're proud of yourself Cerny, hounding an octogenarian out like that.

You Sir, are ageist.

 

Swords

 

Cerny was correct IMO, given his previous posts, it was meant like that.

 

It can be interpreted both ways I'm afraid

 

Only by people deliberately looking for it and people that love trying to find racist connotations in even the most innocent of scenarios. The real protagonists are people like this that enjoy stirring something up from nothing.

It's clearly an old saying that everyone has heard of and, used in the context it was and from the general tone of James' post, that's how it was intended. Pretty clear.

I actually thought you were joking at first with what you said and just winding people up(which would've been mildly amusing to me), sadly I should've known better, sense of humour bypass an' all.

Some people seem to have a real chip on their shoulder over James, sad really.

 

and you sir are obviously a moron...

 

not that i was actually there but wasnt it 39 to 45