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What is the total value of our first team squad?

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  1. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    Ok, here is a diversion from the Maya/Cedric debate....
    What is your valuation of our first team players if any club happened to come in with a bid for any of them?

    Copy and paste the list below.

    Goalkeepers
    Fraser Forster
    Paulo Gazzaniga
    Kelvin Davis

    Defenders

    Cedic Soares
    Jose Fonte
    Virgil van Dijk
    Ryan Bertrand
    Maya Yoshida
    Florin Gardos
    Cuco Martina
    Matt Targett

    Midfielders

    Victor Wanyama
    Jordy Clasie
    Steven Davis
    James Ward-Prowse
    Oriol Romeu
    Harrison Reed
    Gaston Ramerez

    Forwards
    Sadio Mane
    Dusan Tadic
    Graziano Pelle
    Jay Rodriguez
    Shane Long
    Juanmi
    Ryan Seager
     
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  2. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Yep, good one SA. I'll have a think. Very tempted to put £50-100M on every one of them. I'll just put a number. We all know it is £Ms. :)

    Goalkeepers
    Fraser Forster 20
    Paulo Gazzaniga 4
    Kelvin Davis 1

    Defenders

    Cedric Soares 12
    Jose Fonte 10
    Virgil van Dijk 25
    Ryan Bertrand 20
    Maya Yoshida 12
    Florin Gardos 12
    Cuco Martina 2
    Matt Targett 2

    Midfielders

    Victor Wanyama 20
    Jordy Clasie 12
    Steven Davis 10
    James Ward-Prowse 10
    Oriol Romeu 10
    Harrison Reed 6
    Gaston Ramirez 6

    Forwards
    Sadio Mane 50
    Dusan Tadic 30
    Graziano Pelle 20
    Jay Rodriguez 12
    Shane Long 12
    Juanmi 4
    Ryan Seager 2

    I appreciate my valuations won't be market ones. They are obviously a bit personal and, in a lot of cases, what I'd grudgingly accept to lose the player and gain the money. Some players are so new I'm probably woefully undervaluing them. Some I've priced so high I know nobody would even consider the purchase. I really tweaked it here and there, but just looking at it I find I'm disagreeing with myself. Perhaps I should have put £50M [except for Sadio - £75M] on them all. :)
     
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  3. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    Goalkeepers
    Fraser Forster - 20M
    Paulo Gazzaniga - 3M
    Kelvin Davis - FREE if he wanted to go and play

    Defenders
    Cedic Soares - 8m
    Jose Fonte - 10m
    Virgil van Dijk - 20m
    Ryan Bertrand - 20M
    Maya Yoshida - 5M
    Florin Gardos - 5M
    Cuco Martina - 1M or what we paid
    Matt Targett - 5M

    Midfielders
    Victor Wanyama - 20M
    Jordy Clasie - 20M
    Steven Davis - 10m
    James Ward-Prowse -15M
    Oriol Romeu - 10m
    Harrison Reed - 5M
    Gaston Ramirez - 5M

    Forwards
    Sadio Mane - 30m
    Dusan Tadic - 25M
    Graziano Pelle -20M
    Jay Rodriguez -20M
    Shane Long - 10M
    Juanmi - what we paid plus a bit.
    Ryan Seager - 2M
     
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  4. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    If you sold one player, you could probably arrive at a valuation....obviously enough to replace him (plus a bit). However, the price of a player (to Saints) would go up if others had already left...for example, Wanyama was never going once Schneiderlin had gone. I suspect that signing players on longer contracts suggest we are going to resist sales a bit more in the future.
     
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  5. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

    St. Luigi Scrosoppi Well-Known Member

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    Goalkeepers
    Fraser Forster 25m
    Paulo Gazzaniga 3m
    Kelvin Davis free

    Defenders

    Cedic Soares18m
    Jose Fonte priceless
    Virgil van Dijk 35m
    Ryan Bertrand 35m
    Maya Yoshida 5m
    Florin Gardos 5m
    Cuco Martina 3m
    Matt Targett 5m

    Midfielders

    Victor Wanyama 35m
    Jordy Clasie 40m
    Steven Davis 10m
    James Ward-Prowse 15m
    Oriol Romeu 15m
    Harrison Reed 8m
    Gaston Ramerez 5m

    Forwards
    Sadio Mane 55m
    Dusan Tadic 40m
    Graziano Pelle 45m
    Jay Rodriguez 5m
    Shane Long 8m
    Juanmi 15m
    Ryan Seager 5m
     
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  6. st_brendy

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    Goalkeepers
    Fraser Forster 15
    Paulo Gazzaniga 1
    Kelvin Davis 0

    Defenders

    Cedic Soares 10
    Jose Fonte 5
    Virgil van Dijk 20
    Ryan Bertrand 18
    Maya Yoshida 6
    Florin Gardos 5
    Cuco Martina 1
    Matt Targett 3

    Midfielders

    Victor Wanyama 20
    Jordy Clasie 15
    Steven Davis 7
    James Ward-Prowse 10
    Oriol Romeu 8
    Harrison Reed 3
    Gaston Ramirez 3

    Forwards
    Sadio Mane 40
    Dusan Tadic 25
    Graziano Pelle 15
    Jay Rodriguez 12
    Shane Long 10
    Juanmi 3
     
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  7. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Fraser Forster - 20M
    Paulo Gazzaniga - 2M
    Kelvin Davis - FREE if he wanted to go and play

    Defenders
    Cedric Soares - 10m
    Jose Fonte - priceless
    Virgil van Dijk - 25m
    Ryan Bertrand - 25M
    Maya Yoshida - 5M
    Florin Gardos - 5M
    Cuco Martina - 1M
    Matt Targett - 5M

    Midfielders
    Victor Wanyama - 20M
    Jordy Clasie - 20M
    Steven Davis - 12m
    James Ward-Prowse -15M
    Oriol Romeu - 10m
    Harrison Reed - 5M
    Gaston Ramirez - anything we can get.

    Forwards
    Sadio Mane - 30m
    Dusan Tadic - 25M
    Graziano Pelle -20M...would be more if younger
    Jay Rodriguez -15M
    Shane Long - 10M
    Juanmi - what we paid.
    Ryan Seager - 2M



     
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  8. Pelletron

    Pelletron Well-Known Member

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    You reckon Cedric and Maya are worth the same amount?! <doh>
     
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  9. Pelletron

    Pelletron Well-Known Member

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    Was just a joke btw, SS! <laugh>
     
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  10. King Grimlock

    King Grimlock Well-Known Member

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    Goalkeepers
    Fraser Forster 17M
    Paulo Gazzaniga 4M
    Kelvin Davis 2M

    Defenders
    Cedic Soares 15M
    Jose Fonte 5M
    Virgil van Dijk 25M
    Ryan Bertrand 25M
    Maya Yoshida 10M
    Florin Gardos 7.5M
    Cuco Martina 3M
    Matt Targett 5M

    Midfielders
    Victor Wanyama 28M
    Jordy Clasie 20M
    Steven Davis 15M
    James Ward-Prowse 15M
    Oriol Romeu 15M
    Harrison Reed 7M
    Gaston Ramerez 12M

    Forwards
    Sadio Mane 45M
    Dusan Tadic 25M
    Graziano Pelle 20M
    Jay Rodriguez 20M
    Shane Long 20M
    Juanmi 12M
    Ryan Seager 8M
     
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  11. tomw24

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    Goalkeepers
    Fraser Forster 12M
    Paulo Gazzaniga 2M
    Kelvin Davis 0

    Defenders
    Cedric Soares 8M
    Jose Fonte 6M
    Virgil van Dijk 20M
    Ryan Bertrand 10M
    Maya Yoshida 3M
    Florin Gardos 1.5M
    Cuco Martina 1M
    Matt Targett 3M

    Midfielders
    Victor Wanyama 18M
    Jordy Clasie 12M
    Steven Davis 5M
    James Ward-Prowse 10M
    Oriol Romeu 5M
    Harrison Reed 3M
    Gaston Ramirez 6M

    Forwards
    Sadio Mane 35M
    Dusan Tadic 18M
    Graziano Pelle 10M
    Jay Rodriguez 7M
    Shane Long 6M
    Juanmi 4M
    Ryan Seager 3M
     
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  12. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    No, that's fair enough. I take your point. I don't know really. How do you weigh the value to two completely different footballers who would play practically side by side if selected in their best positions.? :)

    One is young and full of potential, and already he's a very good RB. The other is a pretty good, fairly sound CB who is quite versatile as well and can fill in at LB, RB if necessary, and do a pretty good defensive job there too.
     
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  13. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Goalkeepers
    Fraser Forster £20m
    Paulo Gazzaniga £2.5m
    Kelvin Davis £Free

    Defenders

    Cedic Soares £15m
    Jose Fonte £15m
    Virgil van Dijk £25m
    Ryan Bertrand £25m
    Maya Yoshida £120m
    Florin Gardos £5m
    Cuco Martina A bag of crisps
    Matt Targett £7.5m

    Midfielders

    Victor Wanyama £25m
    Jordy Clasie £20m
    Steven Davis £15m
    James Ward-Prowse £18m
    Oriol Romeu £12.5m
    Harrison Reed £7.5m
    Gaston Ramerez £85m

    Forwards
    Sadio Mane £40m
    Dusan Tadic £30m
    Graziano Pelle £25m
    Jay Rodriguez £18m
    Shane Long £10m
    Juanmi £8m
    Ryan Seager £5m
     
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    Targett is getting sold off cheap tonight! Full English u21 player with a lot of prem experience from the Bridge, Bale, Shaw stables must be worth 8-10!

    Mane has to currently be priced at silly money - £41M
     
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  15. Toss saints

    Toss saints Well-Known Member

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    Surprised that Mane is being but up by a few in the £30 to £40 mm. Sterling went for £49mm. I prefer Sadio, he is youngish and will get better, it has to be an opening bit of £50mm before we let the receptionist put the call through to start s chat
     
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  16. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Even at the fan's forum, when a fan said £50M to Les Reed, regarding Mane, he replied to the effect that £50M was undervaluing him. Yes, he was joking but only slightly. Mane's value [or anything for that matter] isn't about how good a player he is, but how many people want him and how much they're willing to pay. Given Saints scouting and recruitment abilities, if a club popped up with an opening bid of £50M I'd certainly start chatting.

    Oops. Emergency. Got to go.
     
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  17. Tintin

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    Goalkeepers
    Fraser Forster - 15m
    Paulo Gazzaniga - 1.5m

    Defenders

    Cedic Soares - 5.5m
    Jose Fonte - 5m
    Virgil van Dijk - 16m
    Ryan Bertrand - 15m
    Maya Yoshida - 4.5m
    Florin Gardos - 2.5m
    Cuco Martina - 1m
    Matt Targett - 1m

    Midfielders

    Victor Wanyama - 16m
    Jordy Clasie - 8m
    Steven Davis - 7m
    James Ward-Prowse - 7m
    Oriol Romeu - 5m
    Harrison Reed - 1.5m
    Gaston Ramirez - 7m

    Forwards
    Sadio Mane - 20m
    Dusan Tadic - 15m
    Graziano Pelle - 12m
    Jay Rodriguez - 6m
    Shane Long - 9m
    Juanmi - 4m
    Ryan Seager - 1.5m

    Tough to estimate some of them really. Some clubs are willing to go bananas and pay more for a player than he's really worth. I've used the transfer fee we paid for them as a guideline, which makes sense to me. These are what I consider to be the actual values. Some of the players (arguably all of them other than Ramirez and perhaps Rodriguez) we don't want to sell other than at very high fees.
     
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  18. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    There are two values here: actual value and the price Saints will charge you...difference may be as high as +10...depending on how much we want said player and if you are Spurs.
     
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  19. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Yeah, I kind of took it as "if it came to it, what would you sell them for" as opposed to "what are they probably worth in real footballing terms". Two very different things.
     
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  20. Plastique Bertrand

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    Goalkeepers

    Fraser Forster - 15M
    Paulo Gazzaniga - 3M
    Kelvin Davis -

    Defenders
    Cedic Soares - 10m
    Jose Fonte - 8m
    Virgil van Dijk - 20m
    Ryan Bertrand - 16M
    Maya Yoshida - 5M
    Florin Gardos - 4M
    Cuco Martina - 1M
    Matt Targett - 5M

    Midfielders
    Victor Wanyama - 20M
    Jordy Clasie - 12.5M
    Steven Davis - 5m
    James Ward-Prowse -10M
    Oriol Romeu - 6m
    Harrison Reed - 5M
    Gaston Ramirez - 5M

    Forwards
    Sadio Mane - 32m
    Dusan Tadic - 15M
    Graziano Pelle -12M
    Jay Rodriguez -11M
    Shane Long - 10M
    Juanmi - 5
    Ryan Seager - ??
     
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