I think we all know that at some time Kevin Ball is destined to become our full time manager. At this moment in time it will be a big gamble appointing him and he may well end up the same way as Ricky Sbragia, a well respected servant for SAFC who ended up leaving with his reputation sunk. I don't want that to happen to Kev. When we have a promising player we loan them out to get experience before putting them into the first team squad, players like Jordan and Jack who benefitted from loan spells and returned as better players. Why not do this with Kevin? If he were to go to Hartlepool (for an example) and get experience managing in his own rite and then on to 'boro for a higher level of management experience he would then be comfortable when he comes to us to manage. It would mean letting him go but we all know he will return to us. As to the current vacancy, I still reckon McLaren is the best of an admittedly unexiting bunch. Forget his failure with England (everybody fails with England) and look at his club achievements which have been mainly impressive which was how he got the England job in the first place. A compromise would be McLaren with Kev as his number two like O'Neill and Robertson or maybe a partnership like Clough and Taylor.
No to mclaren, very negative football. I want someone who is going to get us to play. This may take years but I want to see Sunderland finally playing good football. It's not a huge ask.
I understand the sentiment toward Bally but I hope for the sake of the football club he is never our permanent manager. There is only one scenario where he'd be our manager and it includes us being in the 2nd or 3rd tier of English football.
Agreed mate but, your argument cuts both ways, as said on this or another thread we are looking at Bally through SAFC tinted glasses. For me he has had a good few years with us at the reserve level and is either biding his time or is not ambitious enough to take it to the next level. As a number 2 to the next manager yes all day long as long as the next manager is proven at a high ish level and has some sort of pedigree so Bally can learn from him, not sure some of the names mentioned are that good mind.
Kevin Ball will seek talks with Sunderland owner Ellis Short after tomorrow’s game against Liverpool. Ball stepped in as interim head coach following the sacking of Paolo Di Canio last weekend, but was only asked to take the reins until tomorrow afternoon’s game against the Reds at the Stadium of Light. Sunderland are unlikely to announce a full-time successor until next week at the earliest, with former Brighton boss Gus Poyet the clear favourite for the job. But Ball is also a contender for the post at the club he played for and captained. Ball intends to ask Short whether he should begin preparing the team for next Saturday’s home game against reigning champions Manchester United, and also make his pitch for the job to the owner – although he insists there will be no hard feelings if another candidate is appointed. “The owner knows what I’m all about, the people here know what I’m all about,” said Ball. “If the opportunity arose to speak with him [Short] then I would. “But it’s difficult at the moment because I’m busy with training. “I’ll wait and see, probably until after tomorrow, because that’s the most important thing on my mind.” Ball has the advantage that he is in charge of the team, and if he produces results it would add significant weight to his case. He started with a Capital One Cup win over Peterborough in midweek, but the real test comes against Brendan Rodgers’ Reds tomorrow.
Give bally the job 100% .. we have had so called experienced managers before and we're no further forward. MON was supposed to be our saviour who had a proven track record and look what happened there. Bally is young and english, he understands the game and the players, he speaks his mind and won't take any nonsense but he'll put his arm round a player when he needs to to. He has worked his way up the coaching ladder with us. He's not just passionate about football but he really is one of us and the players respect him after all he has been where they are he's pulled on the red and white and was our general. He leads by example... He deserves a chance to prove he is our man.
The question is can Bally get the team playing football? Nothing more complicated than that. We have enough quality to do OK, if they play up, so all this talk of coaching badges, experience, tactical nous is all bollocks to me. Why aren't they playing together and can Bally fix it? If "yes", hire him. If "no", move on.
I think we all know that at some time Kevin Ball is destined to become our full time manager do we, i dont for one
Sunderland caretaker-boss Kevin Ball shows his bottle TOMATO ketchup and coffee are back on the menu at Sunderland’s training ground and mobile phones permitted again. By Ian Murtagh/Published 28th September 2013 Facebook 33 Twitter 0 Google+ Kevin Ball got off to a good start with a win against Peterborough [PA] But caretaker-boss Kevin Ball said Paolo Di Canio’s sacking will not mean a breakdown in discipline. The managerial change brought instant reward with a Capital One Cup win over Peterborough and tomorrow Liverpool will face a team looking more relaxed, with Ball scrapping some of the Italian’s more bizarre rules. He said: “If anyone wants a coffee, whether it’s here or at home, they’re going to have one, aren’t they? Who am I to stop them? “In terms of condiments, they’re something that’s always available and if they choose to have them, that’s OK. I’m not saying, ‘Haway lad, get yourself a bucketload of tomato sauce’. Di Canio set strict guidelines for his players when in charge [PA] “If anyone wants a coffee, whether it’s here or at home, they’re going to have one, aren’t they? Who am I to stop them?” Kevin Ball “You have to respect people and how they want to do things. For me, they’re all going to be treated as individuals and as men. “As far as mobile phones are concerned, there are certain places they can use them. “But there’s nothing worse than getting a call just before training because that can have an adverse effect.” Ball has not joined in the criticism of Di Canio. “I won’t tolerate anything I feel is unacceptable, so in that sense there is not a great deal of change,” he added.
