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What do we all expect to see from a wet race in 2011?

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  1. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    With possibility of a wet Canadian Grand Prix, what do we all expect to see from a wet race in 2011?

    We don't really know much about the wet tyre. All we can really say from the one wet session we've had this year is that the tyre doesn't seem to last very long - meaning a lot of pit stops if we get a fully wet race. The rapid loss in grip may affect certain drivers more, especially the new rookies who haven't been tested in the wet yet. I think this will increase the chances of crashes, which could provoke a more conservative strategy by teams, or even a safety car.

    The winning strategy seems almost impossible to predict at the moment. Will the teams risk leaving their driver out on unknown worn tyres, or take the time penalty involved with an extra pit stop?

    I would expect Vettel, Hamilton and Alonso to be the main contenders fighting for the victory. The effect of the Pirelli tyre may cause one or two of the top teams to struggle more than others. While the tyres are still an unknown, perhaps tyre management and driver ability will play a bigger part in the race.

    Speaking of driver ability, we've only had one wet session this year, with a "crash kid" crashing, and a certain Spaniard dominating :D

    Apart from rain, what do we all expect to see from a wet race this year?
     
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  2. BrightLampShade

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    If its full wet race I'd expect teams to run 3 stoppers. If Inters are required then they'll be pitting every other lap as the inters seemed awful.

    Hopefully Pirelli have sneakily tweaked the wet tyres so we get a classic race this weekend <ok>
     
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  3. Delete Me

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    We could see Mercedes and Sauber being up there if it rains enough.

    Regarding tyres Vettel has shown to be a tleast a race or two ahead on untested compounds so he could have an edge for the weekend.
     
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  4. allsaintchris.

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    I'd like to see the Pirelli's in full wet mode which we haven't seen yet.

    The last few wet races have seen Vettel, Alonso & Hamilton out in front so I agree I woudl expect these three to slug it out. Hopefully heavy rain may cancel out the Red Bull's high speed cornering strengths so there will be a close fight between them.

    Not sure Canada is the best circuit for a wet race, too many straights and silly slow corners and chicanes. A wet Silverstone would be a good test!
     
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  5. u408379965

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    Start delayed, race started under safety car, red flag, everyone changes tyres, race restarted under safety car, Lewis: "It's almost dry enough for slicks", Rubens: "This is too dangerous to even follow the safety car in", Jenson: "Terrible oversteer, how can the car be so bad right now?", Rocky: "Okay Sebastian, Kers isn't working, do not use Kers", everyone needs to stop again for fresh tyres after 10 laps behind the safety car, red flag, everyone changes tyres for a third time, night falls, race restarted under the safety car, a Hispania hits the wall, race abandoned, half points awarded.
     
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  6. DHCanary

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    AG, <laugh>, rep for that one!
     
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  7. BrightLampShade

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    Even more rep :)
     
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  8. Basil_Brushzenberger

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    I've just bought Rocky 3 on blu ray. My money's on Balboa.
     
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  9. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    did the hispania hit the wall of champions by any chance?
     
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  10. genjigonzales

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    Thanks a bunch. I haven't seen it yet.

    We need spoiler tags on this forum. ;)
     
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  11. TheModestMatt

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    Someone has a Crystal Ball :D
     
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  12. EternalMSC

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    Slow cornering --> Mercedes (More traction)
    Straights / two DRS zones --> Mercedes (Engine power)

    Schumacher has the race craft shown in Monaco, the reliability of the Mercedes needs to be improved significantly, his Qualifying times are improving every weekend.
     
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  13. random92

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    Still not fast enough to win. Last year in the wet, unfortunately for him he didn't show any of his past wet talent, except in Korea, but both Red Bulls and his teammate were out, so he gained 3 places from that. He was appalling in Canada last year as well remember
     
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  14. Delete Me

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    Tbh Mercedes will want rain, those tyres will not last on that car. If it rains, they got a shot at the front.
     
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  15. random92

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    I wouldn't say at the front. They have a shot at the podium, possibly, but not a race win. It'll be Mclaren vs Ferrari for that I think. Mercedes are behind both, and certainly Ferrari, and probably Mclaren, also have updates for Canada, so I can't see Mercedes overhauling either. Red Bull won't be nowhere either, they'll just not be quite as dominant
     
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  16. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    Abs Gloria ---- you didn't mention umbrellas in the pitlane, tv pictures of streams running across the track, nor Alonso rearranging his front wing against the car infront gearbox. Otherwise - another boring race, do I need to watch after such a great summary?.
     
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  17. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    AG, you missed "and Hamilton visits the Stewards through force of habit"
     
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  18. EternalMSC

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    True, Massa is not really on form, Button can be pulled back by the Mercs also, let's see how it pans out.
     
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  19. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    Miggins 'Hamilton visits the Stewards through force of habit"

    -hilarious, but also quite likely!!!!.
     
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  20. North North Watford

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    If the inters are terrible, I welcome that.

    It should mean that we see far more gambles on tyres which in turn should lead to displaced grids, cars seconds faster than one another at different phases of the race culminating in very evenly matched cars having more belief than usual that they can overtake after the last set of stops.
     
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