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What a load of CRAP!

Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by johnnywarksmoustache, Sep 30, 2011.

  1. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    With the loan signing of Wabara from Man City I hope we can now put all this rubbish about players not wanting to sign for us firmly to bed! Wabara had a number of Championship clubs wanting him to sign on loan from Blackpool, Reading, Millwall and yet he chose to come to Ipswich. David Platt even said that we were his first choice for Wabara.

    So I hope at long last that we can forget all this bollocks about Ipswich not being a place where footballers want to come and play their football. After Danny Collins and this young lad Wabara both signing it just goes to show that Keane was simply clutching at straws. Ipswich feels different in as much as the air of optimism is at long last hanging around the club unlike the clouds of doom and gloom only a few short weeks ago.
     
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  2. HangingHog FC

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    It was because players didn't want to sign for him RK cos he was a short ass bullying muffa ****a without a clue .


    I don't like him
     
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  3. San Diego

    San Diego Sir Mediator
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    Good players will sign for teams with good players in, regardless of geographical position. We didn't have a problem getting quality in the eighties.
    Poor results and poor players will not attract the neccesary quality.
     
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  4. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    He was just plain clueless, I just wish people could have seen that after him being in the job after a couple of months.

    Jewell IMO has done an amazing job attracting the players he has done. Now we have a high calibre of player so it won't be that difficult but if you think to before the summer the players we had, how the hell he attracted the calibre of player we now have at the club I will never know!!!!
     
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  5. Spanish

    Spanish Well-Known Member

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    Actually JWM,

    Roy Keane bought players to PR that wanted to sign but sadly the clown that is Simon Clegg could not seal the deal, fortunately he has since learnt that offering a fiver a week plus 2 shandies per goal does not work!! Sean Derry to name but one!!

    I seem to recall that many on here did not blame RK but realised that Clogg was mainly to blame!!
     
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  6. Mike_Holmes1990

    Mike_Holmes1990 Well-Known Member

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    even so spanish Jewell has done the transfers with a lost less money leaving clegg more of a budget to offer in negotiations.
     
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  7. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    Spanish that was before people realised what a moron Keane was!! Noone seemed to blame Keane for anything and thought his decision making process was some sort of bizarre genious but it was just moronic. Somehow I don't think the blame can be totally put at Cleggs door when you consider the amount of signings and players we have made this season.

    Its more than likely Clegg has learnt from previous mistakes but I somehow come to think that this sudden change in fortune for us has come with a different manage, now that is too big a coincidence!!!!

    I can't believe Keane didn't really have much input on the negotiations, surely as a manager you should know what a realistic price is for a player and roughly what wages they should be on but it appears Keane just left this to Clegg. This probably shows why Sunderland and us payed way over the odds for nearly every single player bought in under Keanes reign.
     
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  8. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    Actually let's take a step back here.

    All this was not entirely Roy Keane's fault. Roy didnt have any experience of running a football club and neither did Clegg. Clegg was not only handling all the negotiations and very badly it seems - it was Clegg who was on the phone to clubs to negotiate with them too... In the majority of cases I believe Keane simply identified the players he wanted and then Clegg went out and didn't bring them in.

    Clegg lost Charlie Austin in January and Jewell, with his wealth of experience in how to succeed in signing very good players and how the club should be run, saw the problem and now it's Jewell that makes the phone calls to clubs and sits down to negotiate with the players and hence is a lot more successful.

    On top of that it's very much about who you know and Keane had not many friends in the game because of his competitiveness as a player and only one or two years in management. Jewell on the other hand had already built up strong relationships with lots people in the game and the Man City deal would probably have come off because he's known David Platt for quite some time - you will note there has been no mention of Mancini in all of this and that's because Jewell has gone to Platt.
     
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  9. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    Hamps the points you pick up on are true but they still point toward Keane being inept at transfer dealings. Surely as a manager and his experience in football he should have realised he probably should have more input in the transfer negotiations and realised that we were paying over the odds for every player we bought!!
     
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  10. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

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    Your never gonna get every player that you go in for................
     
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