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Wenger's comments about the Etihad deal

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by PINKIE, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Despite City saying they were "unfounded and regrettable" I feel they are both welcome and pertinent.

    It beggars belief how a company that has never posted a trading profit can afford to throw £400m at a naming rights deal. Unless that company has very rich benefactors, say, I don't know, maybe, the Abu Dhabi Royal Family for example <whistle> and who were perhaps linked to the club via, say, I don't know, someone in the royal family like Sheik Mansour for example <whistle>

    It's a massive conflict of interest at the very least - and at worst it's a blatant attempt to use an 'in house' deal to pass money through to the club and bypass FIFA's fair play rules.

    As Wenger tounge in cheek suggestion &#8220;We must have done a bad deal&#8221; hints at. The Emirates £100m over 15 years against City's £400m over 10 years can't both offer 'fair market value' as FIFA finacial fair play rules state.

    So far from being 'unfounded and regrettable' I think fans of any club should welcome Wenger's interrogation of City's attempts to run roughshod over the rules that are there to ensure financial parity and therefore fairness of competition in the sport.
     
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  2. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia Forum Moderator

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    It will be interesting to see if UEFA do anything about it
    By the way,it's UEFA's fair play rules not FIFA's
    -rep for you <grr>
     
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  3. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    <laugh>
    Where's that signature you promised? <whistle>
     
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  4. leethegunner

    leethegunner Member

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    man city say the sum being passed around is far from correct, but if its anything near that then they should be investigated by uefa, as stated in their own rules.
    they have only won the fa cup, no other team would get that kind of sponsership, something dodgy going on here though
     
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  5. Bergkamp a Dutch master

    Bergkamp a Dutch master New Member

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    something dodgy going on? -no surely not?
     
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  6. PeterRICK

    PeterRICK Well-Known Member

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    This is almost the exact scenario that I said would happen to allow certain clubs *cough* City *cough* would employ to get around the new UEFA rulings.

    On a down side I very much doubt anything will be done. On a plus side, apparently I can tell the future. Time to use my powers for evil...
     
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  7. Gooner91

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    The comments are spot on.
    UEFA can show that they are serious about this FFP thing.
     
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  8. Topgun

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    This City deal could not be a more obvious attempt to bypass the rules, its no surprise that city have been spending money like there is no tomorrow even though the FFP rules start this year. They knew they were gonna blag it!

    If UEFA dont act on this then the FFP rules are rendered completely pointless and it opens the door for other clubs with sugar daddies to do the same.

    Another thing that annoys me about this deal is why are City being allowed to sell the naming rights to a stadium that they do not own!! Its owned by the Taxpayer, therefore why am I not getting a slice of this 400 million cos its my Goddam stadium!!
     
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  9. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia Forum Moderator

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    It's not owned by the tax payer.It's owned by the City of Manchester
     
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  10. Topgun

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    It was built for the commonwealth games, that money came from central government, and the National lottery, Central government get their money from the tax payer, plus I also play the lottery!
     
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  11. Kleinfeld

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    Wenger should get on with his own job, and let UEFA deal with this ****. I Can't believe the baguette munching gimp is getting his excuses ready before the season has even begun. Financial doping wah wah wah, just ****ing be a man and deal with it.
     
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  12. The Bonstar Wandit

    The Bonstar Wandit Well-Known Member

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    ha! what a ridiculous idea. firstly, being french has nothing to do with it. and secondly, "be a man and deal with it." what a great suggestion. so by your premise, we should be fine with athletes taking drugs to enhance their performance? because although it gives them an advantage, if everyone just "manned-up" about it there wouldn't be a problem...right?
     
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  13. Topgun

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    Ive got an idea, why dont we sell the naming rights to the bridges that are part of the Emirates stadium complex. Kronke could buy the rights to name one for 200 Mill and Ushmanov could pay 200 Mill for the other. Job done. Any of you dont like it, then Wah Wah deal with it! ;) (at least Arsenal own those bridges).
     
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  14. Kleinfeld

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    ****ing hell...football clubs have always had rich owners who plough money into the clubs. Man Utd have been spunking ridiculous amounts of money on players for years, Wenger wasn't complaining about that whenever we were the best team in England. He's moaning now because his team are a bunch of bottlers, and he's looking for excuses. If we'd won the league, do you think he'd be as vocal about Man City? The answer is 'no'.
     
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  15. GUNNERBEGOOD

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    Man Utd have never had a wage bill bigger than what they have brought in as revenue. I do not know any previous rich owners, who have lost 120 mil in a year like City did or 140 mil that Chelsea did when Abramovich arrived.
     
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  16. Topgun

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    Man U have been able to spunk loads of cash because they have huge revenue generated from the football club. Annoying though that is its a consequence of them being a very big club. Arsenal took steps to massively increase their revenue (from footballing sources) by making a huge investment in a new ground which in the long term will give them huge financial muscle from football revenue. Right now its limiting us because of the debt it has burdened us with short term

    However now rich arabs and russians have turned up and are blowing huge amounts of cash, it has made Arsenal's commendable and honourable efforts to increase their revenue by building the stadium much less valuable (short term). That isnt fair hence the FFP rules.

    I am actually proud that Arsenal are doing it via footballing sources, and good business. When the stadium debt is clear it will pay dividends and Arsenal fans can revel in the acheivements of the club, instead of the hollow knowledge that a rich man bought thier trophys for them.
     
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  17. charlienicholasismydad

    charlienicholasismydad Active Member

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    The worrying thing is Topgun, how far behind will we be when others are spending "sponsor" or "naming rights" money. Isn't there the saying "nice guys finish last"??
     
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  18. The Bonstar Wandit

    The Bonstar Wandit Well-Known Member

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    i'd rather be a nice guy and finish last personally. Man Utd make lots of money, and they spend it too. with that i have no problem. man city make no money, but spend loads. the owners have paid over a billion into the club since they took it over. i, for one, can't wait for the FFP rules to ban them from the Champions League. wasn't it 107% of their income being spent on wages alone? great business there guys, really well run.
     
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  19. David Schofield

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    Citeh might be taking the piss with this deal, in fact scratch might be, but they shouldn't be put in this situation in the first place

    If at some point, a man wishing to spend his own money on a football club becomes outlawed the game will be well and truly fubar'd

    Let's not have this ridiculous snobbery where a Team that has spent masses on cash over generations is considered worthy, and one who has spent it quick order crass.

    The Teams that spend the most money on Fees and Wages get the best Players and win more often, always has been and always will be the case
     
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  20. tevezrightboot

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    Is there anything stoping Kronke and Usmanov plowing their millions into Arsenal, no there is not. the only thing stoping them is that they would rather keep their money in their own pockets and taken money out of Arsenal in the form of divdends. As i said before Arsene should show respect if he wants respect shown back to him or the club he manages.

    Arsene Wenger behaved like a little baby who had all his toys taken away from him. So Xavi made a comment on what Cesc had told him so what, and then Arsene says that Xavi is showing disrspect. So what about the comments Wenger made about City, without knowing all the facts how can he make any sort of comment.
     
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