To be honest I don't expect any gooners to give a flying **** what a spurs fan thinks of this but the arsenal director who announced that they are in discussions with Wenger said that "it will be done in secret and then an announcement will be made"...so why then did he announce that discussions were ongoing if they were going to be done secretly? Kind of ruins the surprise to announce what the coming secret is! So why has this announcement been made?
He did not say "in secret", he said âThis is going to happen very quietly behind closed doors, privately and then there will be an announcement.â This announcement was made right before the transfer window, because a lot of players come to Arsenal because of Wenger and they want to know if he stays. Players look for stability when they join a club.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22802685 This is good news in my opinion. I know there are those that think he's past his sell by date, but I have always maintained that it is because of Wenger, not despite him, that we have managed to qualify for the CL every season - especially during the lean years. If the board make good on their promise that we now have significant funds to buy and match top wages, then there is nobody better in the league to manage this team than Wenger
that kind of makes sense...re stability I personally think it would be a bad move for arsenal to get rid of wenger...good news for others but bad for you lot
Not really, if some people don't think Wenger is the right man for the job, then they are entitled to their opinion - as they always have been. Having that opinion countered with one that believes that he is the right man for the job isn't a war, it's a debate
It's a highly controversial topic which seems to have split your fanbase in half. The War thing was only tongue in cheek
Fair enough, there is a difference in opinion. For me though, Wenger is the best man for the job and given some proper funds I think he can make us title contenders again.
He's been given the funds, he just never spends it, and when he does, he buys the wrong players. Gervinho anyone?
Exactly right, we have a big split through the fans, it was probably 90% pro AW and 10% anti AW a year ago but the shambles of last Autumn levelled things up a bit. It's not healthy, it doesn't help the players and there were times last year where the atmosphere in the ground was tense from a very early stage, failure to be 2-0 up inside 15 mins and certain sections turned on AW. I have wised up to his errors over the years but I do accept that he is still the best man for the job, whatever restrictions he's had financially only exagerate these errors when you look at the wages spent on a number of failures, we may not have wasted tens of millions on transfers but we certainly have on salaries. Our problem is that we're playing catch up having fallen behind so far, we'd have to spend £150m on 5 world class players just to match the level that Utd/City and possibly Chelsea are at present, all 3 will be spending/strengthening this Summer and we won't be offloading £150m, so for me we'll still be behind the big 3 next year though closer. We could certainly have done things much better in recent seasons but I do think until financial rules take effect we'll be relatively uncompetitive from a title persepective...
My feeling is that it is back to 90%-10% again. The 10% are very vocal though. I think the original charges are that a) he doesn't spend money on players and b) that he tactically isn't any good. The first charge has largely been rendered inert as more financial data comes out of the club about the transfer negotiations we have been involved in. Like the Mata deal, where Mata has admitted he was on his way to Arsenal for a medical and then was diverted by a call that said Chelsea had out-bid Arsenal (by so much that Arsenal were not given a comeback bid). The tactically inept charges have been extinguished somewhat by the AAA, saying that the current team was useless, and then somehow Wenger managing to get them organized enough to scrape 4th. No doubt he will, as any manager, have to continue to prove himself, but right now I don't think there are too many better candidates. One of the best compliments he gets, is that the people who want him out typically can only name one of about the top 3 managers in the game to replace him. Not many fans are suggesting that we get rid of him and get Mark Hughes or Harry Redknapp in.
He's being rewarded for years of failure, that's why us "10%" as you put it (i'd say the true number would be 30%) are a bit pissed off with this. The people still blindly backing (yourself included) Wenger are typically those who are frightened of change, and plastics who don't now any better. Or Twitter as it's commonly known.
How do you define failure though ? Is not winning the league a failure ? and if so does that mean that all 19 other clubs are failures too ? Is qualifying for the champions league every season, despite the financial issues, stadium debt, board changes, break up of the invincibles, selling our best players a failure ? ask the other 16 clubs if they think that's a failure ? There are things I would have liked the board to have done differently (not sacked Dein, avoided the lockdown, allowed a share sale to raise transfer funds, not sold our best players etc) but the one thing in my opinion that's has been our saving grace is Wenger himself. I've always maintained that if we'd sacked Wenger when people were calling for his head 2 / 3/ 4 years ago then we would already have been out of the CL - and who would have replaced us ? Spurs. Now that is what I would have called a failure and I bet the same people who were calling for his head would have been spitting feathers about Spurs being in the CL instead of us too. So the people backing Wenger are not doing so 'blindly' or because we're 'frightened of change' we're doing so because, with eyes and ears open, we see that he is actually the best man for the job and given the proper financial backing, he has a track record of bringing trophies to this club and there's no reason why he can't do that again.
Yes, they would think it was a failure. None of that needed to happen, it's just Wenger decided to employ his stupid youth policy that hasn't worked. 3-4 successes doesn't make the whole program a success. For every Cesc Fabregas, there's 2 Mark Randall's.
I have said it before and i'll say it again,In my opinion perceptions of fans who are AKB's or IAWR's can also be defined by the age of supporters.In my experience younger fans who only started supporting Arsenal since 1998 are far more voiciferous in their opposition to Wenger than older long standing fans.
