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Wenger: Managers must 'control' criticism of players

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  1. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39833762

    Arsene Wenger says managers must be "careful" when criticising their own players and "control what you say".

    Wenger's Arsenal side come up against Jose Mourinho's Manchester United on Sunday, battling to reach the Premier League's top four places.

    Mourinho has questioned the desire of defenders Luke Shaw, Chris Smalling and Phil Jones to return from injury.

    "You can do that in extreme situations but it has to be handled carefully," said French manager Wenger.

    Portuguese boss Mourinho questioned full-back Shaw's commitment and focus to the club last month and then said the player used "his body with my brain" after the 1-1 draw against Everton two days later.

    The former Chelsea manager was also unhappy with the "cautious" mentality of centre-backs Smalling and Jones for failing to play through pain during the Manchester derby.

    Smalling has been struggling with a leg injury, while Jones suffered a toe problem in a training ground tackle made by his team-mate.

    Wenger added: "Ideally you have to be careful with that because you cannot do that in every single game.

    "You can do that in extreme situations but it has to be handled carefully because it just makes that stress level worse for them. Top players have a good and objective assessment. They know well where they stand.

    "You cannot always say to the players 'we are all in the same boat and in this together to achieve something' and then you jump out of the boat and say, 'it's your fault now', but when it goes well you take the credit.

    "You are in a position where you have to be part of it and fight for them when it doesn't go well, you have to control what you say."

    Interesting that he felt the need to come out with this just before the Man U game, I wonder if it was intentional from him or he was fooled into it by journalists. Safe to say Mourinho won't take too kindly to his meddling and boy will he have ammunition against him.

    But seriously doesn't Wenger see the irony in his comments with his own nicey nicey ways of managing failing yet again to get his players motivated throughout an entire season? Has he already forgotten how his team collapsed late Jan to March, thrashed by Munich and surrendering the PL at the same time? Yes ideally managers shouldn't criticise their players openly, but when you have overpaid premadonas that fail to put a shift in then we have a huge problem. They get paid too much to do otherwise.

    Let's see what Mourinho comes back with...
     
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  2. winifred122

    winifred122 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not bothered by what Mourinho has to say - it's all self serving anyway. I think Wenger's point is about not criticising the players in the press and I have always admired that. However the evidence suggests he's not motivating the players in private either. We don't know what he says to players and whether or not he still 'has the dressing room'. In his particular case, to start airing the dirty washing in public now would be disastrous for him.
     
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  3. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Agree with Wenger on this. If you need to criticise your players then do it in private, slagging them off in public just leads to creating rifts and eventually can end up with players not wanting to play for you, as happened to Maureen at Chelsea.

    Maureen is a great coach, but he's also a mouthy little ****. I don't see that his petulant little outbursts help him win any more games at all.
     
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  4. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Given Wenger is such a poor manager, who in their right mind is going to listen advice from him? What does he know about being a successful manager and what you should and shouldn't do?

    You need credibility to try and tell others how they should do things.

    #clueless
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    3 titles, 6 FA cups and 2 doubles maybe ?
     
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    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    So he knows how to be successful 20 years ago. Awesome. Now he just needs a team machine to travel back and give his advice 20 years ago when it was still valid.

    He has no clue how to be a successful manager in today's game and his advice is worth squat.
     
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    Tiddler Hoshu-tekina

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    Condemning the message because you dislike the messenger is beyond stupid tbh. <doh>
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    If he wins the FA cup this month, then it will be 3 trophies in 4 seasons.
     
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  9. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome
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    Disagree with Wenger on this.
    Maybe if he outed more of the lazy twatfish ****s in the Arsenal squad to the press, then maybe Arsenal wouldn't be sitting in 6th.
    I am not even sure Wenger reprimands them in private, let alone to the press.
    Jose just says things how he sees them (sometimes to his detriment).
    Luke Shaw is a worthless piece of ****, Jose said as much whilst Chelsea manager, and was baffled as to why United signed him.
    We have seen how Wenger's tactic of sucking his players off and blowing smoke up their arses has fared.....
     
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  10. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Of course it isn't. The validity of anything said in this world is fundamentally tied to the person it's coming from so what are you talking about? Why would anyone in life take advice from someone about something if they're not an expert in it themselves?
     
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    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Good stuff. Justification to keep him.
     
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  12. Tiddler

    Tiddler Hoshu-tekina

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    So if he said it got dark at night you would say he was wrong?

    Genius <doh>
     
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  13. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Come on man, don't play stupid just to have an argument. It being dark at night is objective and can't be debated.

    Advice on how best to do a job is subjective and can be debated... And should only be deemed valid when coming from a reliable source. Wenger is not a reliable source on how to be a good manager. Because he isn't one.

    That really DOESN'T take a genius to understand now does it?
     
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