Forest owned by a sensible, focused, one track mind owner who realises relegation will damage his club and his bank balance. He will even cheat the system and accept a points deduction to ensure survival. Below is the latest transfer window intake and he also sold £100m+ of talent, we didn’t even make £10m in sales.Forest fat man spends yet another £246m on 13 first team players. Dan Ndoye - Bologna, £34m Igor Jesus - Botafogo, £10m Cherif Yaya - Rio Ave, £10m Jair Cunha - Botafogo, £14m Angus Gunn - Norwich, free Omari Hutchinson - Ipswich, £37.5m James McAtee - Man City, £30m Arnaud Kalimuendo - Rennes, £25m Douglas Luiz - Juventus, loan with £30m obligation Nicolo Savona - Juventus, £11.25m Cuiabano - Botafogo, £10m Dilane Bakwa - Strasbourg, £34.7m Oleksandr Zinchenko - Arsenal, loan Its now obvious to us all sheer yank big talk married to inexperience has left us favourites for relegation. Farke now has the unexpected and unenviable chance to prove his detractors wrong, by showing everyone he is a good coach and with a shytty hand dealt to him he has succeeded and won survival for Leeds. If he can still be in his job at Xmas I believe our idiot owners will get him Messi, Mbappe and anyone else he wants. There are countless 49er investors who are part of Leeds Utd fan social media groups, and some well known famous investors. They will be letting the heirechy know how angry fans are and indeed how angry they are as their investment is in danger of being wiped out. Without stadium development many could lose their money. Looking at the past couple of seasons shows us the target required for goals scored to give us a chance of survival needs to be between 50-60. Goals conceded also needs to be no worse than 60 as the last 2 seasons clearly show the 6 relegated sides let in 80 goals plus each. Everton and Man Utd last season only scored around 42 to 45 goals each but stayed alive as they didn’t concede tons. We did improve our defence and keeper so let us hope Farkeball can be adapted to keep us safe until Xmas. Grétar Steinsson A former Icelandic full back moves into scouting and coaching at AZ Alkmar, then spent 3 seasons as Technical Director at Fleetwood Town. He then joined Everton as a scout and within months is a technical coach at the same club. He then moves on to Spurs as Performance Manager and by all accounts fell out with the manager and was briefing the media against Levy and Antonio Conti. He went against what Fabio Paratici (DoF and Technical Director) was doing and Antonio Conti found him useless. He spent less than a year in the role and Leeds Utd decided to give him the role of Technical Director. He built up a large recruitment team and was then given a promotion by 49ers Enterprises as Footballing Director. When he moved on all the recruitment team left? What happened to all their work, their player data, their potential player scouting lists, agents lists etc. Adam Underwood promoted above his competency Level. I find it amazing that when Steinsson gets promoted to Footballing Director for the owners why wasn’t he involved in this window, where in the world do 49ers have football to manage besides maybe Ranger and Leeds, where the hell was Steinsson and WTF was Marathe thinking. Angus Kinnear joins Everton at the same time as everyone else left. Steinsson has a relationship with Kinnear who employed him and obviously he also has a relationship with Everton. Everton had a great window Leeds got shafted and many questions need answering.
Glad you wrote that as had I said any of it Id be accused of bashing our owners. Im a great believer in judging players owners managers etc over a period of time. Ive seen enough to know Farkes a good manager, we don't deserve him and wont get any better for a long time. The new recruits haven't had enough time to show anything. The 49ers are 4 years in place and their lack of football knowledge is startling, as bad as the last lad. They've obviously decided they wouldn't let a clown like Orta run the whole club so instead they've employed a bunch of inexperienced nobodies. And we discover only today were getting a set piece coach when a blind man could see we were Shyte at them even under Bielsa
Much rather have him than the owners we have. He actually backed up his mouth, won promotion, kept them up even if he did bend the rules and then he got them into a Europe and all within a couple of years. Sensible he may not be because he used his own money but 100% focused on succeeding. I am betting that if the wheels fall of our team by Xmas that the first casualty will be Parag Marathe as too much investor capital has been gambled on staying up and the way to stay up is not to spend £100m on half the players sitting on the bench
Forest owner broke the spending rules and just survived the drop. Then the deducted points was very lenient and they just survived again. A couple of real sliding doors moments for Forest. A relegation in and amongst all that and they would be completely bankrupt by now. He has gambled the clubs future. I'd say that's pretty reckless. I suppose you could say that he is similar to Ridsdale at Leeds but his gamble paid off.
Don’t disagree with any of that but looks like the 49ers have gambled too and if Farke isn’t the coach he thinks he is then we go down and the 49ers lost their gamble and cash. So it’s a toss up Emu Forest are still there and in Europe whereas we could be struggling all season and dropping. Fat Greek also sacked coaches and brought in Nuno and we all know how good he was in the Championship and he saved Wolves for years until the Chinese got greedy. Nuno will fall fowl of fatty probably but again fatty gambled and won. 49ers also nailed their colours to Farkes mast. If Daniel survives the let down of our owners he will have deserved everything coming his way
Just throwing this in the pot. Aaronson forgiven by Farke, Jack forgiven by Farke Wober forced out. Wober CB and he can cover LB and we sign a new CB and the Leicester FB with combined fee around £30m Joseph accused Farke of lying, said he was left out the trip and he was willing to travel. We pay off Bamford. Dressing room disruption being removed, poor business, Farke favourites and faces not fitting, whatever the reason some strange decisions
Nobody wanted aaronson or jack. That’s why farkes had to integrate them back in.bamford had become a liability using two players wages
This is a pretty good explanation of what we need to do and also does an Aski deep dive into the data from last season and done by a football data analyst. Emu, Milky and Aski does this fit your own view or data?
Only got half way through that yet as rushing to work. Excellent analysis by that lad. Thought Gnonto had decent start to the season but that suggests otherwise. Will finish it later
Its all opinions but yeah, alot of that i agree with. The main point is the poor decision making in the final third in open play. Gnonto and James have not performed or created anything of note in 3 games. Aaronson has looked most likely of the forwards. Set pieces are important. Set piece coach is needed. Its a Farke weak point. The first Arsenal goal is a perfect example. They load the back post as a group. We set up zonal marking but in our own 6 yard box and our players are facing the corner taker so they can't see any Arsenal players. Basic kids coaching is to 'open' your stance up. So in this instance face the centre line so you can still see the corner taker but also see the Arsenal players. When Arsenal players start to move then you can block them off. Rodon doesn't see the Arsenal goalscorer until he's past him and getting a free header. If he was facing the half way line he would be in his peripheral vision. I also advocate leaving the 6 yard box to the keeper. Leave it empty to give him room to punch or collect. Then you put Gruev in the mix. If you are on the back post, then ****ing stay on the back post. My u8's coach told me to hold on to the post until the ball is clear then move out. So 8 year old me from 1988 stops the Arsenal first goal. It really is that simple. If that means a set piece coach then so be it. One of the main failures of the window is that we only have Stach to put in set pieces.
Part of the reason that I advocate Okafor coming in to the side as soon as possible. Gnonto looks handy but doesn't produce mind blowing goals and assists.
I saw someone on another thread yesterday say we did actually score a good amount of goals from corners but Lockey says yes but we had a massive amount of corners compared to anyone else so in reality our strike rate was poor. my big take for this season is not having Dan James doing his stuff and hoping Okafor can replace Solomon. Many of our goals came from wingers who charged into the No9 position to get on the end of a ball in from the opposite winger. James and Solomon scored for there as well as coming in and creating a shooting chance for themselves. We also had Bogle and Firpo doing the same No9 run to finish it off. However they are all up against better defenders and tactics so we need them to get back to their best
We had more corners than anyone else in the league but we were top half in goals from set pieces. We were not terrible. Adding a set piece coach hopefully puts us top half in the league from set piece goals. Its negligence of the highest order to focus on signing tall players and not have a dead ball specialist or a set piece coach in place by the start of the season. Ridiculous if you think about it. Part of that is Farke and part of it is the 49ers.
I've only watched the first 6 minutes so far Doc, and whilst I may agree with his sentiment, the data I have seen so far that he is using to justify his point, or at least his interpretation of that data raises some questions. Ie he shows OPTA stats showing a total of 187 goals from set pieces from 300 games. He makes a statement that between 260 and 290 goals in total were scored over the entire EPL last season from set pieces. For that statement to be true based on data he uses to prove his point, that means that in the last 80 game of the season, there needs to be anywhere between 80 and 110 goals scored from set pieces, when over the previous 300 games, the average is 50 set pieces goals per 80 games. That's a hell of an uplift and in reality needs to be explained, as data nerds like myself are going to raise questions. Now this is just a first impression and all my calculations were done in my head so if I've interpreted incorrectly then I do apologise to the lad presenting the data. However I felt that having questioned his first bit of data I best wait till I'm home at my pc where I'm able to do calculations with out relying upon my own mental capacity as I'm obviously going to deep dive into every one of his data facts if they appear not to make sense to me. From the replies so far everyone seems to agree that what is said makes sense and I probably will to, as no matter how much I like to analyse stats, an unbiased visual analysis is most times likely to be correct.
Well Im heading on a weeks holidays Monday so that should give me ample time to digest your full reply
