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Transfer Rumours We nearly tried to send Zarate back!

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by YappyR, Feb 3, 2015.

  1. YappyR

    YappyR Well-Known Member

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    That is the best shyt I've ever heard.








    QPR left empty-handed as transfer plans descend into chaos
    Harry Redknapp waking up to no new signings after deadline day disaster


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    Surplus to requirements: QPR tried to end Mauro Zarate's loan stay
    Harry Redknapp will be cut a frustrated figure this morning after QPR’s transfer deadline plans descended into chaos late last night.

    The Rangers manager attempted to send Mauro Zarate back to West Ham United and asked the Hammers if he could have Matt Jarvis instead.

    However, the Premier League confirmed rules were in place to prohibit Zarate from returning to his parent club within the same transfer window.



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    Collapse: Matt Jarvis' move fell through


    It emerged Jarvis was also unable to make the move across London as top-flight clubs cannot secure more than one player from a divisional rival.

    Redknapp had earlier made enquiries for Tottenham’s Aaron Lennon and Emmanuel Adebayor but ended up landing none of his targets.

    The QPR boss is now left with Zarate, who was effectively deemed surplus to requirements by the deadline day wrangle, as his only winter arrival at Loftus Road.



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    Blocked: Harry Redknapp saw rules prevent him from making squad changes


    Zarate’s fitness is a concern to the Hoops and the Argentine striker has so far failed to feature for 90 minutes since joining on a loan deal.

    Summer signing Jordon Mutch’s sale to Crystal Palace was Redknapp’s most notable piece of business as QPR continue their battle for Premier League survival.

    Next up for the Hoops is the visit of fourth-placed Southampton on Saturday.
     
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  2. rangercol

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    A lot will now depend on Zarate's frame of mind, if he is to have any impact with us. If he is the type who will sulk about this then he will just warm the bench.
    However, if he thinks, "I'll ****ing show you" then maybe he can do something for us?
     
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  3. Ciarrai_Abu

    Ciarrai_Abu Well-Known Member

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    Whoever was responsible for signing Zarate should be fired.
     
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  4. goldcoast hoop

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    What does have to do to get SACKED
     
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    I thought it was West Ham that wanted to take Zarate back, because Carlton Cole was going.
     
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    It was
     
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    Sutfol Well-Known Member

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    Ever get the impression no one knows what they're doing - total mayhem
     
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  8. 4StringR

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    Because the QPR official website has remained silent and not even mentioned the closure of the window (at least it hadn't when I last checked) we will never know what really went on, but the first thing I thought of when the "Zarate going back and Jarvis coming in his place" news "story" broke ,I thought immediately that it was to do with events further up the chain, especially with Andy Carroll limping off again at the weekend. Maybe the Jarvis thing was discussed between clubs as a sweetener to QPR if there was a recall clause, but the PL killed it because of its rules on loans.

    TBH I think that in the absence of ANY player coming in last night and TF's recent tweets about what a great squad Harry has at his disposal and already full of the right sort that HARRY brought in to the club, then rather than pumping more money into the problem, TF and the board are effectively telling Harry to get his finger out and save the club from relegation and his own reputation as an English Manager in the process. And further more I support that position. Someone wrote somewhere else that Harry has now had 5 transfer windows to get this right and we are still struggling down near the bottom of the Premier League having been relegated and bouncing straight back up.

    Warnock may not have saved us, Hughes may not have saved us in his second season and last time around Harry did not save us. Hughes now appears to be getting on fine at Stoke. So is the problem not even Harry - albeit his deflated or non-plussed demeanor makes him appear not up for a fight he realizes he cant win - but a realization that what the board is trying to achieve for the club is just not achievable in the short term. Spend and get relegated and then get clobbered for FFP by the FL when all you are doing is trying to feed off the scraps of the Top 6-8 clubs who have had a secure grounding in the PL long enough to have the capacity and structures in place to be financially viable.

    The January window is always the same, the dross that is on the fringes of the bigger clubs first team squad getting loaned out to get them match time or part of their salary off the books for 6mths, with everyone trying to play poker all day on the final day and then a mad panic when someone shows their hand and a deal sparks a chain reaction elsewhere. It's nonsense really and should be scrapped - you want players then plan and buy them in the summer - end of.

    Is the problem bigger than TF or Phil Beard or Amit Bhatia or even Paladini. Posters getting hysterical on LFW about us being a laughing stock, vain enough to think that the entire footballing world sits up and notices everything that goes on at little old Queens Park Raisins? Is it the system that is the laughing stock, the English League system split into two separate governing bodies with different rules and structures and the huges disparities between the 8-10 who do have and the 70+ who do not have meaning that anyone who tries to break into the top tier will most likely yo-yo unless by some miracle they have managed to recruit and train world class players on the way up who can survive and compete at the top level.

    Yes, TF and co are naïve, Yes, perhaps Harry is actually proving that when all is said and done he is not actually that great a manager, Yes, perhaps some fans have unrealistic expectations and demand success on a plate and want it now, but it could be all of those things or none of them, but just perhaps the Board, if not actually TF himself, have realized that there is no quick fix and are refusing to throw more money down the drain when in all likelihood whether we stay up of not might as well be down to a toss of a coin.

    And maybe Harry may think, do you know what, the old knees are making this too hard and I had better resign and get them sorted out this week to stop Sandra going on it me and then goes. Who knows? :)
     
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  9. Eamon Holmes

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    4StringR has it right. Swap loans of Zarate and Jarvis, WH wanted Zarate back as cover. We could have done with a winger who can cross.

    Nothing to do with "sending him back".
     
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  10. RicardoHCAFC

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    If Zarate going back was because of Cole leaving, why wasn't Cole's transfer cancelled straight away rather than waiting until the Adebayor deal fell through? West Ham were already after Adebayor.

    What does strike me is how amateurishly run at least one of the clubs is here though. There's no excuse for a club turning over as much money as PL clubs do to not know the most basic rules about transferring/loaning players. Right across the PL you see daft things like this, earlier in the season we had one with Bruce saying the club were looking to recall a loanee from Hibs in October/November to cover for injuries, when the rules say he'd have been ineligible until January anyway.

    When deals are being done somebody should be sitting down with the manager saying "if we do the deal, this is what it means". If it was West Ham pushing to swap Zarate for Jarvis then Allardyce (or the person running the transfers) should have known when Zarate went out that he wouldn't be recallable. If it was you trying to get Jarvis then you should have known the 1 player from a single club rule, and known when signing Zarate the only way to end his loan would be to sign him permanently. Someone there has wasted valuable time working on a deal that was never possible.
     
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