We could have got the crowd involved in a better way than we did - Pardew

He is blaming the fans ! Unbelievable, one of the best Clubs in England support wise (after us of course ) But HaWay, you have mint support.

 

The support was as incredible as always from the off, stadium packed to rafters and buzzing.

But from when that whistle goes it's up to the team also to inspire the crowd and give them something to cheer on.

It's a 2-way deal and when the players give little to nothing then I'm sorry there's only so much the supporters can do.

Most of the lads in the terraces would sell their granny to take to the pitch in the Black and White stripes on derby day, never mind standing in the cold cheering on a bunch of overpaid losers.

My advise for Pardew is stop thinking about the crowd and concentrate on making it happen on the pitch. Get that bit right and the crowd will follow...

 

He is off his ****ing tits.

 

How can he have a go at probably the most loyal fans in the country. What other club would have 50,000+ every week support watching pathetic displays like today and putting up with Fatty, Joking Ear and Pardew.

 

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So kind of you to come on and rub it in, context to the quote? I think Pardew was saying that the team could have done so much more to give the fans something to cheer about, nice way to twist it, yes we were crap but then Sunderland weren't that good, get past this.

 

Best performances in a Newcastle shirt I've seen in many, many years...

 

Whilst I agree, to be honest, our supporters today seemed comparable with the French home Rugby supporters, and that was obvious from the stream. Don't make a good start, and they're quite willing to get on the backs of the players and the atmosphere becomes a tad poisonous and counter-productive. The Geordie support isn't like that in general, in fact I'm proud the way our support usually takes a hammering, and in truth it's completely understandable today, especially in a passionate match. The real problem was, by selling Cabaye and getting one, loan signing in, a massive statement had been put forward, whether intentional or not. The squad is seemingly good enough to not warrant strengthening.

There was always going to be tremendous pressure on the remaining staff to perform and live up to that statement, increased ten fold by the fact our next game was a derby match. Add this into the relative situation of each club, and we were favourites, but the manner we were blown apart just flied in the face of everything, and summed up what has been an embarrassing few weeks for everyone connected with the club. Unfortunately it's impossible not to be frustrated by what's happening, or not happening, as the case may be. We were like the least active club in two windows this season. We aren't Man City, we can't afford that.

 

"We could have got the crowd involved in a better way than we did" - Pardew

When I read that I read it as him saying that they gave the crowd nothing to cheer - which they didn't. If they had shown some heart and shown that they were up for it, then it would have got the crowd far more involved in a positive way - but they just didn't do that and Pardew and the team need to take the blame for that, which I see this statement as doing.

 

It must be hard for Pardew, looking at his options. I mean, there's no way in hell he tells his players to go out there and look like scared rabbits in headlights. Sunderland held a massive psychological advantage, and that's only increasing on a group of players we've long known to be pretty gutless. Last season, very few stood up to be counted, and we only just stayed up.

Pardew was very limited in what he could do today. Some said De Jong should start, but it was obvious he was nowhere near match fit (though he looked fairly bright in places... neater passing than most as well), and with Shola, the only fit forward, we only had one style we could play to make use of him.

I think the team we put out was weaker than Sunderland's overall, to be honest.

 

As I've said elsewhere, there was a real sense of almost looking for a bad result to vent frustration at the club today.

The derby defeat almost gives us a license more than most matches to really display the anger felt by the fans.

Lied to again and again in January, cheated, taken for granted etc etc but they don't care...

 

I sense the frustration is really building with Pardew and things could come to a head. I've said on another thread that he seems to be getting more critical of the board - not so much in what he says, but in what he doesn't say - but Ashley will still pick up on that, and I'm not sure it will have a happy ending. For the remainder of this season he has been left on a hiding to nothing. By the time the next window opens he will have gone a year and a half with no new permanent signings. What happens in the next window is last chance saloon for those of us who have tried to grasp at straws of positivity about the way the club is being run. I'm starting to wonder though if Pardew has doubts about the regime and that's not good news.

Pardew didn't seem himself today. I wonder if he fits into this bracket along with the fans...

 

There was a distinctive change of tack with Pardew this week. He made certain comments designed to place pressure on the board regarding signings.

He actually spoke about potential signing Clement Grenier in a way I've never known him do before, almost talking him up as one of his own when most didn't believe it would happen.

I also noted his comments about building and then being forced to rebuild teams several times, remarking that when Andy Carroll was sold it was the toughest time as manager.

He is not happy. He's been lied to and was totally hung out to dry today in my view.

If we're honest he started with a team I expected him to pick, probably the one I'd have been forced to pick too.
We can blame him for not bringing Marveaux on sooner or De Jong, or playing Haidara or MYM instead of Taylor but really he can't win there. These guys have proved too they can't be relied upon.

It just comes down to motivating players, if that's something these players should even need at this level.
I think they are all guilty of feeling sorry for themselves and frankly a result like this is almost giving a finger to the board isn't it?

"Well if you sell our best players and betray our efforts this season then screw you!"

Worrying, but I still think that once we get Gouff and Remy back we'll be fine until summer...

 

I just wish it hadn't been the derby!

 

Yeah, well we all do – but you get what I mean don't you? Did you share that sense about it all?

Today's game had so much of that about it, a feeling of defeat before we ever got started. Well we didn't get started did we?

Then when you see the toxic crowd reaction, just itching to get angry at the regime it all points to wider problems sadly...

 

Good comments lads. As an outsider Pardew aint done to bad compared to Guillot, Souness and Big Sam. Remeber when you hounded Bobby Robson out for finishing 5th and what followed. Pardew has done well with that w*nker not supporting him.

 

Some of them but especially Debuchy. I think he was pissed off Cabaye had gone and even more pissed that a replacement hadn't been brought in. You could see it in his manner today. He had the air of not caring or getting the boot in. At several points I thought he was going to get sent off. Waddle spoke alot of **** about him but the **** needs to understand I can forgive the odd bad performance as Debuchy is quality. I know he is committed. Just sick of all this **** surrounding the club and I think it came to ahead today.

What I can't forgive is certain ****s being here for years such as Saylor and Shola and time and time again they f**k up and then time and time again they seem to be forgiven.

Those sort of ****s need to be cleansed from the club come summer but they probably won't be.

 

you really must be less subtle with your wumming fella... try harder

 

We never got out of first gear mate, didn't need to. True Newcastle not turning up led to this, but it's no reason to take anything away from our performance.

It was professional, clinical and more than suffice.


As for Pardew, read his post match quotes and I didn't catch him sating that he got his tactics wrong or that he didn't prepare the team adequately. The bloke is passing the book and an absolute coward. I'd be livid with him if i were you lot.

 

Which book is Sir Alan passing Bri?