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WE ARE ****

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by awjm, Jan 31, 2015.

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Are we ****?

  1. Yes, we're ****

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  2. No, we're ****

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  1. awjm

    awjm Well-Known Member

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    Are we ****?
     
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  2. jeffranger

    jeffranger Well-Known Member

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    Well that didn't you long to slag them!! I give up.
     
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  3. aqualung

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    couldn't agree more. Wonder if some actually are rangers fans.:emoticon-0127-lipss
     
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  4. awjm

    awjm Well-Known Member

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    Oops. you're right. I should never criticise my own club and when we're **** I should say we're splendid.
     
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  5. seagullhoop

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    I thought if we hadn't given them a two goal start we were pretty equal (watched a stream). What is most puzzling is how (and why?) we start the game so negatively. It's like we have learned nothing from the past 10 games and from how we set up at home. The commentator made the observation that we play Austin alone up front when we play away - we all know that - the whole league know that, and look where it has got us!

    If you do what you always do, you'll get what you always get - you need to change things to get a different result. It's a special kind of madness to expect anything different. We dominated the second half, and we conceded chasing the game - no shame there. But the way we played in the second half should be the way we start games - when will someone realise this?
     
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  6. aqualung

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    You've got it in one! :emoticon-0137-clapp

    <cheers>
     
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    awjm Well-Known Member

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    I can understand your point about us pushing for a goal and conceding but I think that's not really the point. It's not about being attacking and thus being vulnerable in defence. Our defence is terrible and we've conceded more than any other team in the league, even when a goal against us is against the flow of the game. It's because teams find it relatively easy to break us down or catch us when we're disorganised.
     
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    Well, you personally shouldn't because less than two weeks ago when Fernandes said Redknapp was staying you specifically said you wouldn't criticise anymore.
     
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  9. awjm

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    You're right. But that was when I believed Fernandes was genuinely supporting Harry. Now I don't quite believe it and wonder if he will get the sack.

    I tried, but I can't support Harry. I'm simply waiting for either next season or for something to change this season.

    That's right, I changed my mind.
     
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  10. aqualung

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    ..and that's every woman's prerogative, so fair enough.
     
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    It will be a long wait awjm, roll on June when Harold's contract has run out and he can go and enjoy his local golf club......

    Besides the championship will give us a chance to re-build yet again.....
     
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  12. seagullhoop

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    I think we were a bit more gung-ho right at the end, and that is when we conceded. Before that - our possession was good and, but for some poor decision making with the final ball could have got something (yes... how many times have we said that...).

    If you are defending deep and inviting teams on, it's not a surprise that you will concede goals - perhaps it seems a bit chicken and egg. Do we concede more because we are defending so deep, or de ow defend so deep because we concede a lot of goals?

    Either way, I think we would concede less if we spent more time up the other end of the pitch.
     
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    awjm Well-Known Member

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    If we do get relegated I hope we have a total change of philosophy and intention, going back to roots and getting the simple things right.

    Bring those youth development plans to the fore, no more thoughts of trying to become a top, world class team. Build with what you have, work within means, put a strong emphasis on NOT creating debt and even think about making profits in the future.

    Do we mind being a "small club?" I've never had a real issue with going to LR and enjoy that stadium. Ok, we do need to move but no more of this silly attitude of becoming an elite club. First, conquer our realistic aims and put ourselves in a situation where we might one day think about being a good quality premier league team.
     
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    Right. But I think if we sorted out our defensive and actually had the right playing staff for the job, we'd be conceding a lot less even when we're committing forwards.
     
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    You certainly aren't ... you can't give a crap like Harold ... Not caring at a time like this is disgraceful IMO
    Anyone who defends Harold can't be QPR
     
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    No Messi or Ronaldo or even their both together could not save us from relegation as long we have arry as a manager.......
     
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  17. awjm

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    Because he'd probably play them as full backs. Or maybe goalkeeper.
     
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    Anybody who thinks the worst top division away record since 1954 is in any way acceptable, or has any reasonable excuse, can you please send me a small pack of whatever you are smoking.

    Think of all the most appalling teams which have been relegated in living memory. Our away record is worse than theirs.
     
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    TWGWTDT Well-Known Member

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    Exactly
     
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  20. aqualung

    aqualung Well-Known Member

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    ..and anyone who wants him to fail is?? Laughable mate!:headbang:
    not defending him at all, if he is staying as tony says he is, no point slagging the guy off at every opportunity. Better to be adult about it and actually accept that fact and get behind him if possible. Positive vibes are better than negative ones!
     
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