I am fed up of reading and hearing our fans argue amongst ourselves. How sad it is that when our club is having its most successful period in its entire history we are arguing over our name and our owner. We should be enjoying this season and the seasons to come. We have the most talented squad I have ever seen in black and amber. We are in the premier league with an excellent chance of survival, in the FA cup with a very real chance of getting to Wembley. We have a famous, successful and likeable manager (hard to find these days) in charge who appears to be improving our squad with every transfer window. Yet all this is passing us by with all discussion being spoilt by bitching and infighting. In my opinion all this hatred towards our slightly eccentric owner is uncalled for. From where I am standing he has delivered on his promise to save our club from administration or worse. He has turned the club around with his investment to the point that we are better than we have ever been. Let’s look at some facts. Football these days is a money game. The more you have the better chance you have to be successful. It’s sad but true. You just have to look at the best teams in the world to back this up. A club needs to be run as a business to be successful. And to be fair this isn’t even true anymore as to really make it as a big club you need an owner who has more money than he knows what to do with. Money he can just write off in order to get to the top and stay there. Chelsea and Man City are prime examples. Unfortunately our owner isn’t a billionaire so we do have to run as a business. Mr Allam want’s his business (our club) to be a success. His long term goal is for the club to be profitable whilst delivering top flight football to our great city. He is not trying to destroy our club. Our owner has invested so much of his money into the club but needs more to try to guarantee our continued success and improvement. I read people moaning that he has only lent the club money and saying ‘I thought it was a gift to the city and that he should just write it off’. What utter ****! His gift to the city was saving our club, not a monetary figure. If and when the club can sustain itself why shouldn’t he get his money back? He is a business man, one with a pretty good track record from what I can see. The Name Change. Mr Allam thinks this is needed to better our club. He thinks money can be made by making our name and club a brand. We are the first in the county to try this and the truth is non of us know if it will work or not. I think it might work to some extent. Hear me out before you all shoot me down. It is true the tiger is a strong symbol in certain countries and we may be able to exploit this. Also it is true that we need a larger fan base. I decided who I would support as a child, I’m sure that is true of most people. I was taken to a game and was hooked. But what about those who aren’t taken to games. I’ll bet a lot of these became Manchester and Liverpool fans, chosen because they are successful sides. I would suggest that a clubs name has not been a factor in choosing your team in the past. I think that is because no one has tried changing their name to achieve this before. I think we are likely to attract new young fans with a short catchy name incorporating ‘Tigers’ coupled with the fact we are slowly starting to compete with the bigger sides in the country. I’m sure I will be slated for this view, and I may be wrong. One thing is for certain, if we don’t try, we will never know. We can still call the club City as I’m sure all of us will. How long have we been moved from Boothferry Park? 11 years I think, yet we still sing from Boothferry to Wembley don’t we? I see no difference with a change to the club name. We will still sing city till I die I’m sure. What’s all this rubbish about losing our history if the name changes? History does not change! We will have always won that play off final and got promoted back to back from the lower leagues. Warren Joyce will still have masterminded the great escape. The Cardiff game last season will not cease to be. Ashbee and Windass will still be club legends. All history will show is that Hull City AFC changed its name in 2014 to Hull Tigers, nothing more. The company I work for has changed its name 3 times in ten years and is still surviving. We are even a sponsor for the club. I agree Mr Allam has gone about this badly and can understand why people are upset. But its only a name, we are still called Hull. We have not moved to another city like Wimbledon. I wish he would come out and say if the change does not make money I will change the name back. Surely that would appease some of you. He should not have said CTWD can die when they want but come on. Some of you have taken it far too literally. He did not wish death on all its members, he wants the group to go away, the thorn in his side. It’s his business, not personal and some of you have taken it as such. It is logical that if we do not make money elsewhere that ticket prices will rise. The money needs to be found somewhere. While we stand in his way to what he thinks will make money, he is going to put the cost on to us. That’s just a fact. I have read this board for a long time. It is usually informative and even funny at times. Lately it has not been worth reading with every thread turned into a slanging match between those against and those who are for or don’t mind. I’m sure the usual ******s will come out and slag me off for what I have said. They can fill their boots. This is only my opinion. I also know that many of the good posters on here are divided on this subject and normally I would applaud people for standing up for what they believe in. Unfortunately I feel that this argument is helping no one and will only damage our club in the long run. I also only see one winner. The man with all the power. To you all I say he is trying to improve our club and make it a success. It’s in his best interest to succeed, not destroy the club. With all Mr Allam has achieved so far I think he has earned the right to try the name change. Who knows, he might just be right. Ps the punctuation police and dictionary corner can go f**k themselves. I don't care if I've made a mistake! UTT
I love it when people post these definitive, end of argument posts, and in the belief that is is so eloquent and persuasive that we will all suddenly see the light. I don't agree. So there .
If i thought i could end this argument i would have written this a long time ago. It is only my thoughts on the subject. Thanks for reading it though and your feedback has been noted.
I think it's a pipe dream & you're clinging onto Mr Allam's every word. I call it that because there's no business plan whatsoever, and he's had over 6 months to make one. City will never achieve anything in the Far East based on colours, name, badge alone. Success is the only thing that counts. See Man Utd, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Liverpool, Chelsea- what have they all got in common? We haven't got any of that, and haven't the money to invest in the overseas markets. The man has more than doubled the club's debt. Not saved us from anything. I don't know why anybody would want to work with Assam Allam after his rants at his own fans. His PR is pathetic. If we change our name based on a company asking for it to be altered, they haven't got the club's interests at heart.
I'm not clinging onto anyone's words, it's my opinion. With regard to our debt. It's not owed to the bank like before and we have sell-able assets unlike last time. Our player investment on the whole has been excellent. I agree we will not get to real madrid or manchester united levels. Does that mean we should try nothing? One thing that is true, this argument has gotten little Hull City talked about nationally and internationally. What is it they say, there is no such thing as bad publicity?
If he can't sell the tat in the club shop to people who the club represents, ie the citizens of Kingston upon Hull & The East Riding, then how will he do it to foreigners? I don't think they're that stupid to "oh it's a tiger, our national emblem, on a amber & black striped shirt. I'll deffo put down this Barcelona knock off, I've got here, & get that one. Oh me likey long time" Yes, people are talking about it. But it's how pathetic Mr Allam is. Not about the club & Brucey doing reasonably well on the pitch.
I'd really like this one clearing up. What tat? Seems another one of these lies that keeps getting commented on until its fact. what exactly do other club shops sell that we dont? I've only been in a few club shops and it all seemed the same as ours.
He is getting lots of publicity. Nearly all bad, and I'm sure it won't be doing any of his business's any good at all. The image he is portraying to the media can do him nothing but harm
