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Match Day Thread WATFORD v NEWCASTLE UNITED

Discussion in 'Watford' started by oldfrenchhorn, May 3, 2018.

  1. colognehornet

    colognehornet Well-Known Member

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    It must be painfully obvious that anyone managing in England for the first time is going to make most of their mistakes in their first season and will benefit from those with a second year. Managing a team who are ( with a few exceptions) thrown together for the season, are often homesick and have language problems, is not easy. We know from experience that our best foreign imports - Heidar Helgusson, Brynjar Gunnarsson, Allan Neilsson, Matej Vydra (for a year), Almen Abdi have either come from Northern or Eastern Europe - it takes much longer for players from the south, or from South America to adapt.
     
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  2. brian_66_usa

    brian_66_usa Well-Known Member

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    How many years have the Pozzos owned Udinese and how many of those years have they been in the top div ?
     
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  3. Hornet-Fez

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    Quite so, but they're in real trouble now, Udinese. 0-3 HT.
     
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  4. kchorn

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    And how many of those years have delivered entertaining football, and how many managers have come and gone?

    My question to myself is "Do I want to see the last three seasons repeated ad infinitum?" And if I'm honest the answer is no. And I think if the gaffer is fired and another failed recruiting process is pursued, without any thought about the humans involved, then I'll walk away - as tough as that maybe after 55 years.
     
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    I understand what you are saying .Wet Spam say they would rather play in Div 2 the "Wet Spam way" than win with Big Sam he said whats there way Losing LMAO .I find it hard to watch if we are losing BUT and its a very big BUT the longer we are in the EPL the stronger as a club we are . I think there is at least 12 clubs in the div 1 and 2 that have played in the top div and would want to be in our place
     
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  6. Scullion

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    Phew!
    Until Man U
     
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  7. A1 Horn

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    I’ve only just realised, we’ve actually done the double on someone! Can’t remember the last time we managed it.
     
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  8. Markthehorn

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    2 seasons ago - against Newcastle !!
     
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  9. Mexican Hornet

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    Pigmies in the land of giants!! ;)
     
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  10. duggie2000

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    And in the FA cup
     
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  11. oldfrenchhorn

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    Looking at the season we have survived, which is the same tale as the past few years, and next season we will start off again with the same desire to not return to the Championship. Apart from the top six teams and possibly Burnley, all the rest have had a period when the fans thought that their team might not survive. This is how uneven the PL has become.
    When we were in the Championship there was always the chance of promotion and automatic or playoffs to win that. The PL is so dominated by the big clubs it is quite something when a team like Leicester upset the apple cart. Unless we have a Leicester year, we will not have the same degree of excitement as we had in the lower league, more a period of worry. I think that we are missing the type of battle that Cardiff and Fulham have been going through.
     
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  12. Mexican Hornet

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    Even in my nonsense I got one thing right, Will Hughes with the spin after the game!!

    http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sp...16208419.Hughes_rues_Watford_s_inconsistency/
     
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  13. colognehornet

    colognehornet Well-Known Member

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    We could start taking the cups a bit more seriously - a cup final would give me the same degree of excitement.
     
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  14. oldfrenchhorn

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    Agree cologne, but I think I was trying to say that in the lower leagues one has to look both up and down at the start of a season.
    Eventually we might see a breakaway league of the top European teams to form their own league in an attempt to hoover up even more money. If that happened it would create a PL of clubs that might be a little more equal.
     
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  15. brian_66_usa

    brian_66_usa Well-Known Member

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    Beware what you wish for
    1/ What about TV deals (more for the big clubs less for us)
    2/Would our owners want to still own us
    3/the top league would not have any promotion

    im sure there is more
     
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  16. colognehornet

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    A breakaway league could happen but would a Liverpool v Paris St.Germaine fixture really hold the fans in the same way as the Merseyside derby does ? Of course, for those fans in Singapore (who have never been to either city) it may be more attractive but not for those in the stadium. TV. football needs atmosphere in stadiums, or the experience is not the same - of course, they may replace fans altogether with canned singing at some stage in the future <doh> I despair of what football could be like in 20 years time and think we were fortunate to have been born when we were.
     
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    There is also the away crowd issue. How many football fans can keep flying around Europe every other week.

    As my spanish family say "In the UK you have great ground atmosphere. The banter between home and away fans is great."

    In Spain, apart from local derbies and 'El Clasico' it just doesn't happen. I saw a division 2 game here last season and the away crowd was one guy! The TV made a big thing of it especially when he celebrated a late equiliser. But atmosphere? Forget it.
     
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  18. yorkshirehornet

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    Listening to a commentary or watching on TV and you completely miss the atmosphere created by the fans... almost as if the media people don't value it
     
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  19. oldfrenchhorn

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    My Friday evening is often spent watching League 2 French football via a stream. It often has no commentary, just effects mics picking up the crowd chanting and usually making a load of noise.
     
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  20. yorkshirehornet

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    yes... even Jon Marks and co fail to relay the crowd atmosphere
     
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