So what? We are there by right, they can suck it up and focus on playing us at football when they get promoted. Why the **** does it need raising as some sort of negative? Get a ****ing grip, will you; who do you support, us or them?
Are you just looking at the name of the poster? Poor form. It happened it's gone on for years and years.
Try doing something interesting then. Aren't you disappointed at what is happening with the club and its support?
Not to the point of contaminating every thread on this forum with non stop negativity about anything and everything. Our support is what it is, we're never going to be as well supported as Newcastle, Sheff Wed etc etc. I can live with it, it doesn't worry me, it doesn't make me angry or sad, It is what it is and when the Allam's have cleared off it will improve. We still won't get as many as Sunderland but hopefully those who do attend games won't have ****ed off ten minutes before the end of the game either.
What disappoints me is I used to discuss this with another poster back in the early 1970s and we said, after watching hordes of Sunderland, Boro, Blunts, Leicester and others bouncing about at BP and then going to most away matches with a couple of busful that if we ever had time in the top flight and a bit of success we would be the same. I used to say the same during the Dolan years to the despicable ****s who supported Leeds, Man Utd, Liverpool etc and who used to take the piss out of the couple of us who supported City. Unfortunately we were proved wrong. Yes, times have changed, but it is still disappointing.
I'm afraid we at Hull City have missed the boat when it comes to seeing thousands of fans bouncing about football grounds at League matches - it's gone and we missed it. Football, at the top end, is becoming ever more gentrified - you only have to look at what's going on at West Ham to see the future; at the old Boleyn Ground, 75% of the place people were standing and helping/trying to create a proper atmosphere, that's finished for them, the best they'll get in the future is a Man Utd type ''singing section'' to drum up a bit of atmosphere. Modern football has too many fans who are happy to sit and watch, too many who seem embarrassed to join in with a few songs, it's the future - Premiership and Championship prices are too high for youngsters to be told to sit down and shut up. This past few seasons the match day experience has become a joyless thing**, all an old bugger like me is hoping for is non-glamour FA Cup ties for a bit of banter and old time support. **Some think this may improve when we have new owners, I hope they're right.
It's just money. Most of the passless City fans I know haven't bought one simply because it's too expensive to do so. I'd wager a good proportion of City fans don't make that much money that they have enough disposable income to buy a pass. The £21 a month might not seem a lot to some people, but it is to others. We are a poor, working class city who put their families first, having a PL team all of a sudden is even more of an expense than it was when were playing in Div 3, so it's probable that a lot of those who didn't go then have weighed up their options and decided to do other things with the money instead. Even when we went up the first time, the novelty of being in the PL drew the fans in. Now, that novelty has turned into expectation and with live streaming and Sky Sports everywhere, people don't need to go to the stadium to support the club. You look around at 23,000 or so fans for a PL game, it's not that bad really, is it? Considering we also have two professional rugby league teams that most of the City follow as well, it's hardly a surprise we don't sell out. The Allams haven't helped that cause either.
Cant agree about £21. Purely on price that is a bargain. Thats the price of two pints a week for the month. For a single bloke thats nothing.
Are Sunderland and Middlesrough well off, middle-class cities, to mention just two which get larger crowds than City with similar, but smaller populations? Leicester has a rugby club which for years has got as many as Rovers and FC combined. I am afraid the depth of support which was assumed was there isn't as deep as we thought. Might have been a few decades ago but not now, Bumped into a Wednesday fan Iworked with who I hadn't seen for a few years recently. Had a bit of fun reminding him of Wenger's 20th year in charge and asking if he could remember someone saying when Wenger was appointed that he looked like a professor and wouldn't last six months in hurly burly of the Premier League. He responded by asking me if I could remember someone saying that if Hull City ever got to a Wembley final that City fans would fill Wembly on their own and if we got to the PL we would need a 40,000 ground and would still be turning fans away. Touche. Still I was able to go on my way after a few observations about play off finals and how he would be happy they lost as he said at the time when we first made it to the PL that he would 't have wanted to gain promotion that way. Though, as I said then, we would have gone up automatically if there hadn't been play-offs for the third place anyway.
Actually, we seem to be under represented in the younger fan department compared to,a lot of clubs. Especially when you watch away followings.
