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Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Matthew Bound Still Lurks, Jun 8, 2014.

  1. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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  2. Dragonborn

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    Can understand Argentinians being miffed at having an island so close to them occupied by foreigners from a land thousands of miles away. But the fact is the Islanders have been there now for generations and have a right to self determination under the UN Charter so absolutely nothing will change. Time to let it go and move on.

    Like mass immigration it's another legacy of Empire that had unforeseen consequences. Always like to see the Argies thumped but not this time it seems. :/
     
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  3. Norway-jack

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    Y'know what id ban every single fookin' argie player from playing in the UK . , Cheeky cnuts , they have never had claim to those Islands Historically .

    Maybe the Spanish team should pose with a "we want our Argentina back" flag ??


    This has no place in the world cup, they all had a chance to be brave in 1982 (and many were) but pushing this agenda now just before a world cup is pathetic and even cowardly , these players roll around on the floor if somebody farts near them, they have no clue what men of both sides went through back then, i feel offended by that flag to be honest, will fifa do anthing about it ?

    Of course not .
     
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  4. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps all the Argentinian players in this country earning a living from us should be told to go forth and multiply.
     
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  5. mikraswan

    mikraswan Well-Known Member

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    Oh yes, the UKs claim to those Atlantic rocks is God given...
    Start WWIII over the Falklands.
    It's even more absurd than Denmarks claim to Greenland. We're at least not fighting wars with Canada over territorial rights. It would be a joke of the same kind as the ridiculous conflict with Argentina. It's the silliest war an European country has been involved in as long as I can remember...
     
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    I'm not sure about historical claims but agree that using a football match to make political points is out of order and FIFA should impose a sanction - but you're right Norway, they won't.

    Mikra - not so silly if you're an Islander locked up in school gym whilst another country's army marches through your town.
     
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  7. mikraswan

    mikraswan Well-Known Member

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    UK should claim all their former colonies back - so should every nation in the world. LOL. That would be a mess
     
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  8. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    I suspect that the majority were as brave as the next man and were fighting for the guy along side him rather than a collection of Islands as the majority were conscripts and with the loss of life you'd have hoped that would have been the end of their "claim" but its not the case as we know .Fifa will ignore it as I suspect the UK are not the most popular of the countries that they have an influence over
     
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  9. mikraswan

    mikraswan Well-Known Member

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    UK has as much right to claiming the Falklands as they have to claim Hong Kong, India, Australia, south Africa or the USA...
     
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  10. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Mikra please go away. i really dont like your tone. We are not trying to claim something back There are people there and they wish to remain part of the uk. if you just want to be antagonstic the you can go forth and multiply as well. Your comment s have no place here IMHO of course.
     
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  11. mikraswan

    mikraswan Well-Known Member

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    So sorry to disagree. Please feel free to go on with your imperialistic back-clapping. Too bad you can't see the double standards of that, being Welch and all that...
     
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  12. Monty Fisto

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    Why not just let the people of the Falklands decide.
     
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  13. mikraswan

    mikraswan Well-Known Member

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    ...and stop war-rhetorics...
     
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  14. Monty Fisto

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    The people of the Falkland Islands have voted overwhelmingly in favour of remaining a UK overseas territory.

    Of 1,517 votes cast in the two-day referendum - on a turnout of more than 90% - 1,513 were in favour, while just three votes were against

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21750909
     
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  15. mikraswan

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    I do remember quite a few in here have military backgrounds in your professional lives, but even back then in the 1980's this was an unnecessary conflict. The purpose was to hide the internal problems in Thatchers UK, rather than to save threatened citizens.
    Reminds me of a certain conflict in present day Ukraine...
     
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  16. mikraswan

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    Like the vote in Crimea lately...
     
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  17. mikraswan

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    I'm sorry, said too much. I'll get off the thread now...
     
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    As an ex serviceman who fought in the Falklands and lost a few mates in a pathetic war that should never have taken place in the first place. We are 10,000 miles away from a piece of land that has no value and costing the tax payers of this country billions. I dont give a **** if the people on the island want to stay there as it's their choice but we are wasting a lot of money that can be better spent in the UK. The Falklands is on Argentina's doorstep and the island through the history has been theirs and they should get it back and have done with it. We with the french were the tyrants of years gone past and claiming islands all over the world with menaces and it's about time we recognize that we were wrong and give back these islands to their rightful owners. I support the Argentinians and their fight for the falklands so we can stop all the needless billions we spend on what i call a piece of waste land....
     
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  19. Monty Fisto

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    It was a British territory invaded by another country, what do you think Thatcher should have done?

    As for the parallels with Crimea, yeah I suppose the Argentinians did act a bit like the Russians.
     
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  20. Norway-jack

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    Not about that, its about the fact the Falkland Islanders were given a choice and voted to be a part of the UK , their wishes should be respected !!

    Mikra you should check your History on such things, if we believe in Democracy than the Islanders voice needs to be heard, they have spoken and want to remain part of Britain end of story.

    "A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013.[1][2][3][4] The Falkland Islanders were asked whether or not they supported the continuation of their status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom in view of Argentina's call for negotiations on the islands' sovereignty.[5]

    On a turnout of 92%, an overwhelming 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.[6] Had the islanders rejected the continuation of their current status, a second referendum on possible alternatives would have been held.[5] Brad Smith, the leader of the international observer group, announced that the referendum was free and fair and executed in accordance with international standards and international laws.[7]"

    They are British and voted to remain so, plain and simple the argies can go fook themselves on this one <ok>
     
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