Did VK's tackle on Wilshire remind anyone of another recent tackle of his? I thought it was very similar to the recent effort on Johnson, difference being that in the latter case, the ref (Clattenburg) allowed play to go on and Man City scored with Johnson still writhing on the ground. When at the game, I thought it looked outrageous and should have been a foul if nothing else but after seeing it on MOTD, I had to admit that it was just a very strong but fair tackle.....as it was at Arsenal. Difference being he is sent off at Arsenal!! Could have been such a different game at CR. Wilshere's part in the tackle is another matter though! - he was stretching & late, giving Kompany the full force of his weight on his thigh. He could easily have seen red on another day. I still suspect Kompany's red card will stand when it goes to appeal, having said all that.
I can't comment on the Arsenal incident, having not seen it. But (and I can't remember where I saw it, maybe MOTD) apparently that's just how Kompany tackles, so that whilst it looks dangerous, it is often a fair challenge. But, as seen yesterday, it seems his technique doesn't help him.
I thought they were both dangerous, reckless tackles with at least one full set of studs showing which in today's money is a straight red card.
For me that was an excellent tackle, he made no contact with Wilshire with his boots and he gets all of the ball with one foot. I can't really see why Wilshire went down so early. Kompanys tackle on Bradley was far more dangerous i think as he actually went straight through him, he doesn't with Wilshire. neither should have been a red card.
[video=youtube;ygbbNyvPJio]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygbbNyvPJio[/video] Here it is for people who haven't seen it
Excellent tackle. Just a shame that the rules can now be interpreted in such a way that anything deemed 'aggressive' or with 'studs showing' can now be a red card. The good, hard and clean tackle is almost a thing of the past.
I don't disagree that is was a great tackle, however the law clearly states if you lead with studs showing its a red card, and whether or not he got the man or ball there is no disputing that his studs were clearly up (and dare I say it both feet off the ground as well, another big no-no these days). Not saying I agree with the law, but all we seek is consistency with how it is applied.
The FIFA rule (Serious Foul Play), like it or not doesn't mention 'studs up' or studs 'showing' it's as follows - A player is guilty of serious foul play if he uses excessive force or brutality against an opponent when challenging for the ball when it is in play. “Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent. ie Any player who LUNGES at an opponent when challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent, is guilty of serious foul play. Did Kompany LUNGE, yes - should he have been sent off, yes, can the modern day footballer tackle correctly, no.
Sorry to disappoint you, Kent! Thanks for that, Carrowluke. In this case of the VK:JW tackle, JW could also be said to have lunged agressively, he just wasn't as good with his accuracy. I reckon something would have snapped if their feet had met plumb! I guess I'm just highlighting how difficult the interpretation has become and that it leads to reffing inconsistencies at the moment.
The problem is: What is excessive force? There's so much ambiguity in the official rules, that it comes down to individual opinions. In this case the ref considered it excessive force. As this thread shows, some agree, some don't. Until the rules are clearer as to what 'excessive force' consists of, we'll keep getting this type of decision.
I was astonished to be told by a referee that there is nothing in the rules about ' winning the ball ' so a tackle is just as illegal whether you win the ball or not. Quite clearly the tackle was a lunge, studs up and both feet off the ground so must be a red card.
A technicality possibly but I'd say Kompany lunges at the ball not the opponent and the actual contact is in no way dangerous, given that JW seems to be made out of tissue paper and egg shells it can't be that bad as he got up.
What has, Vincent Kompany's tackle I know it's fiendishly cold out there but not enough to do that, surely!?
Ahem! I'm really pleased it's been rescinded. Wilshere was running full tilt at Kompany. Was he expected to stand aside? Or perhaps we could supply cb's with the nice little capes that bullfighters use. In my view, Kompany's tackle, (no..please!, hear me out!), was fair. I also think his one against Johnson was fair; but a bit more borerdline. I admire Kompany; he's a 'proper' centre back.
