How many more poor ref decisions are needed before the EFL make the call to bring it in. Watching the Football League goals this morning, and yet again there are a whole host of poor decisions on penalties and disallowed goals, which has been the case every week in the 5 weeks of the season so far. Every week managers are running the risk of fines by venting their anger, we have seen it with our own Nigel Pearson, and I thought Steve Bruce was remarkably constrained after the WBA game, a terrible,e decision not to award them a penalty. As he said, if the ref couldn’t see it, where was the assistant? If you can’t rely on the infield officials, you have to have help.
I still think the way forward is improving the officials. VAR seems to create as many problems as it solves. The EFL need to work with the clubs, not see them as the enemy. Mistakes always have, and always will be made, I agree though the number and severity of the mistakes recently is unacceptable, I just don’t think VAR is the answer.
Refs are shocking -Var you say is wrong then the game is screwed big decisions costing big points as Nige said this is the division with the most to gain from promotion. Something needs sorting can’t go on like this.
It was supposed to stop poor decisions by badly placed, or in some cases truly unsighted referee's But the uncomfortable truth is that even with the benefit of video replays the wrong decisions are still made which is unforgivable, plus all of the time it can waste and it disrupts the flow of games. It's been trialled and still doesn't solve the issues. Bin it off
VAR and it's clones are valuable tools to correct human errors in all stadium games made by officials who can only view the action in real time. Whether it be football, cricket, tennis and the like, there is no question their judgements should be supported or contradicted by replays and state of the art technical innovations. Other than goaline technology, football has a much broader interpretation than the other sports which are basically "in or "out" decisions due to the fact that a referee's opinion is still required on many matters such as foul severity, interfering with play, and in the case of Cucarella recently, was having his hair pulled off his scalp a foul?
I am in favour of VAR as long as it is used to benefit the game by helping the referee make decisions that may not be seen in full context by officials. It should never become the sole arbiter of all questionable calls because that could mean spending 3 hours at your local stadium in the pouring rains of January whilst some TV watching people far from the scene decide what's wrong and what's right to possibly ruin your day out. Technology is all very well and good as long as it does not attempt to take over the sport it is intended to benefit.
The EFL is a not responsible for referees. The professional game match officials limited is. Do you know what the numbers are and are they increasing? What clubs and players should recognise is that they have is a responsibility to the game. Referees numbers are at an all-time low, more referees are leaving the game than entering it. A contributing factor is the abuse referees are receiving, pro clubs and players are part of creating that drain.
Another poiint is that referee efficiency is not getting worse. The never been worse .. Its a myth. However if referee numbers continue to drop the standards inevitably will have to drop, there will be less talent to select from. If player partiicipation levels collapsed as ref levels are clubs would care.
Conte was whining about a decision yesterday the ref and var got right as the ball hit the playesr head. People always blame others for their failing.Var adds to the coating offf refs get not improves respect, Ditch all of it and put the spotlight on respect for the game instead of bosses and players disrepecting the game.
That’s a very good point, players don’t help themselves by diving and acting, if there was more respect and less cheating it would make the refs job a whole lot easier.
I’ve said on another VAR thread before I think it could be a useful tool for the referee to use. My suggestion is that in any given situation the (human) referee makes his decision. IF one side wish to challenge his decision, the team captain can request VAR - but with the threat of a yellow card for time wasting if the original decision is upheld. Simples.
So if the captain is already on a yellow that rules out a challenge?, Back to the drawing board on that idea I think. Teams would name a sub as their captain
Yes - the challenge would have to be a genuine one otherwise a team would be down to 10 men after 2 failed challenges. It would make them think long and hard about arguing with the ref. Maybe it might discourage some cheating?
Why?, arguing with the ref wouldn’t be affected, it would continue, what’s to stop arguing in your suggestion, the yellow cards would only kick in if VAR used.
I think what Redandwhite is alluding to is similar to tennis with one challenge per half. There won’t be any wasted time as clock stops like rugby TMO.
Because the referee could ask the player arguing with him if he would like to risk a yellow card by stopping the game. The answer would probably be no in most cases.
